The thing people have to understand is that these things happen in cycles. Slowly but surely the EPL will eat itself alive both financially and competitively.
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WHAT A GOAL.top class...but pao defenders where lost in the middle of nowhere
and guess what,we are in the middle of february and he never got injured from the beggining of the season,he lost a couple of matches due to suspenion.
amazing coming back,roma made it 1-2 on 81' min...somehow the lost it,and their loss is well deserved
DUDE 
u got to see his reaction...i saw it on replay...wow hilarious
do you remember last season..CL group stage,inter vs pao...
Cisse 
3:2 for PAO
I want to know how Ranieri looks at the moment
u got to see his reaction...i saw it on replay...wow hilariousdo you remember last season..CL group stage,inter vs pao...
Nop i don't think that will happen anytime soon. Looking at the numbers, the premier league's revenue's are increasing almost every year. The financial gap between premier league clubs and the rest of europe is getting bigger and bigger (with the exception of Real madrid and barca but not the rest of spanish la liga clubs) almost every year and its not slowing down.
Even with all this talk about clubs having financial difficulties like liverpool for example, once the owners decide to sell the club there will be dozens of new investors waiting to buy the club (so no problem there).
The thing that will shift the dominance of premier league clubs in europe is the new rules of Fifa IMO. That 6+5 rule will be devastating on premier league top clubs. It doesn't matter how much the premier league are getting richer when that rule is introduced the table will turn. Add to that some legendary managers like Ferguson and wenger will at some point step down and things won't look the same for their clubs.
So IMO Financially the premier league won't suffer atleast in the near future but there are other things that will effect that league.
Even with all this talk about clubs having financial difficulties like liverpool for example, once the owners decide to sell the club there will be dozens of new investors waiting to buy the club (so no problem there).
The thing that will shift the dominance of premier league clubs in europe is the new rules of Fifa IMO. That 6+5 rule will be devastating on premier league top clubs. It doesn't matter how much the premier league are getting richer when that rule is introduced the table will turn. Add to that some legendary managers like Ferguson and wenger will at some point step down and things won't look the same for their clubs.
So IMO Financially the premier league won't suffer atleast in the near future but there are other things that will effect that league.
I am an Anderlecht fan, but I also support the other Belgian teams in Europe. BUt of course, for us, it is very important that we do well in Europe, we are close to a spot with direct CL qualification for the league winner. That is different then how it in SerieA is, there they have 3 teams that are certain of CL qualification, in Belgium, we have 0 since at the moment, they all need to play at least one qualification round, if we do well in Europe, we have one directly qualified team.
And Bilbao drew at home also.
And Bilbao drew at home also.
"It's our own fault" Rab, didn't you know? 
And if you honestly believe and wish that others would help us achieve our objectives please say so and I promise you, you will never hear a single sarcastic thing from me ever at all.
I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Some were justifying them cheering for Italian teams in Europe by stating their concern about the coefficient thing saying that it will be an automatic goodbye to CL if we don't make for the top three in the league instead of being one the first four teams and you said well it would be our own fault if we are not good enough to be among the first three. But then someone condemns those who support Italian teams saying that it will make our rivals richer and then they will buy better players which will make them even stronger. So isn't it our own fault if this happens? Isn't it our own fault if we get trashed out of the CL in our stadium? What's the difference?
because italian football is shit right now..for years english and spanish clubs destroied us (italian teams)..so i would be really happy if milan will go threw...heck i suffered when pippo missed that chance..and i enjoyed every minute of that game. But they won't go further, neither do inter...we and roma have the chance to do sth...
You say that the Italian football is in pain right now, they need to become strong again, make sure that there will be 4 Italian teams in CL and that's your reason why you support Milan in CL.
And ok, I can accept that for you and a small minority.
But the majority here wants Milan to do good and I can't take their excuses seriously.
You know why?
Serie A was strong and had the top 3 secured only 3 years ago. Milan won the CL in 2003, Juve made the final that year, Milan played the final in 2005, Italy won the WC in 2006, with all 23 Italian players who won the WC playing in serie A.
Then comes 2007. Italy have the top 3 secured (they're 2nd actually) and 21 of the 23 players who won the world cup less than a year ago were still playing for Italian teams.
The FIGC relegated Juve the previous summer.
Do you want to see the CL semifinal and CL final threads from 2007 and see how many of those who now say that they support Milan due to the country coefficient were supporting Milan like mad even in 2007?
Was the country coefficient in 2007 the reason why they acted as bigger Milan fans than the Milan fans themselves?
This current debate is old. It might be boring but it's an old one and it dates from 2007. Back then the same people supported Milan, the same ones who support Milan today and they say how they're doing it only because Italy's 4 CL places are in danger.
And ok, I can accept that for you and a small minority.
But the majority here wants Milan to do good and I can't take their excuses seriously.
You know why?
Serie A was strong and had the top 3 secured only 3 years ago. Milan won the CL in 2003, Juve made the final that year, Milan played the final in 2005, Italy won the WC in 2006, with all 23 Italian players who won the WC playing in serie A.
Then comes 2007. Italy have the top 3 secured (they're 2nd actually) and 21 of the 23 players who won the world cup less than a year ago were still playing for Italian teams.
The FIGC relegated Juve the previous summer.
Do you want to see the CL semifinal and CL final threads from 2007 and see how many of those who now say that they support Milan due to the country coefficient were supporting Milan like mad even in 2007?
Was the country coefficient in 2007 the reason why they acted as bigger Milan fans than the Milan fans themselves?
This current debate is old. It might be boring but it's an old one and it dates from 2007. Back then the same people supported Milan, the same ones who support Milan today and they say how they're doing it only because Italy's 4 CL places are in danger.
Four CL spots is good for Juve though, not just Italian football.
More Italian teams in Europe equals more exposure for calcio, even more so if they succeed.
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This exposure brings in more fans. The increased popularity also attracts star players to Italy, as well as helping retain the ones they already have (Kaka, Zlatan).
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A popular league means higher TV ratings, as does a league with more star players, as King Ale pointed out.
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All of the above benefits Juve, and here is y.
The new collective TV rights deal coming into effect next season (I think) divides the total value of domestic and foreign TV contracts based on numerous criteria, such as fan base, history, etc.
Juve will receive the largest chunk of the TV rights pie because we have millions of more fans in Italy and many more scudetti than Inter and Milan. It will only be a few million euro difference, but over the long run this adds up to a significant amount.
With increased participation and success in Europe the total value of these deals will get larger (which means more money for Juve). The best way to achieve this is with 4 CL spots.
Comparing the value of the new foreign EPL TV rights deals to that of 3 years ago clearly demonstrates that success in Europe reaps benefits at home. The new global EPL deal is worth at least a billion pounds. That is £355m more than the deal from 3 years ago.
Let’s not forget sponsors as well. The more viewers a league has, the more money the club is able to get from sponsors. Once again, look at the new deals signed by the EPL top 4 compared to those of years past.
Sure, our rivals will get more money as they progress in Europe, but as proven with Milan, this never helped them domestically. More importantly, our domestic rivals are in such shit financial condition that money from European progression does not give them an edge over us.
Inter runs a giant loss every year, as does Milan (although they are making good progress), and Roma are crippled by the debts of their parent company.
Juve on the other hand run a profit, have no crippling debt, and are about to move into a new stadium which will drastically increase our revenue.
One could argue that having only 3 teams in the CL means the UEFA market pool money will be divided by 3 teams instead of 4, meaning more money for those 3 teams. However, this difference is insignificant when compared to the money made off TV rights and sponsors, which is more likely to increase with 4 teams in Europe, not 3.
In conclusion, we need to look past our hate right now. 3 CL spots for Italy is yet more bad exposure that does absolutely no good for the bottom line.
More Italian teams in Europe equals more exposure for calcio, even more so if they succeed.
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This exposure brings in more fans. The increased popularity also attracts star players to Italy, as well as helping retain the ones they already have (Kaka, Zlatan).
=
A popular league means higher TV ratings, as does a league with more star players, as King Ale pointed out.
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All of the above benefits Juve, and here is y.
The new collective TV rights deal coming into effect next season (I think) divides the total value of domestic and foreign TV contracts based on numerous criteria, such as fan base, history, etc.
Juve will receive the largest chunk of the TV rights pie because we have millions of more fans in Italy and many more scudetti than Inter and Milan. It will only be a few million euro difference, but over the long run this adds up to a significant amount.
With increased participation and success in Europe the total value of these deals will get larger (which means more money for Juve). The best way to achieve this is with 4 CL spots.
Comparing the value of the new foreign EPL TV rights deals to that of 3 years ago clearly demonstrates that success in Europe reaps benefits at home. The new global EPL deal is worth at least a billion pounds. That is £355m more than the deal from 3 years ago.
Let’s not forget sponsors as well. The more viewers a league has, the more money the club is able to get from sponsors. Once again, look at the new deals signed by the EPL top 4 compared to those of years past.
Sure, our rivals will get more money as they progress in Europe, but as proven with Milan, this never helped them domestically. More importantly, our domestic rivals are in such shit financial condition that money from European progression does not give them an edge over us.
Inter runs a giant loss every year, as does Milan (although they are making good progress), and Roma are crippled by the debts of their parent company.
Juve on the other hand run a profit, have no crippling debt, and are about to move into a new stadium which will drastically increase our revenue.
One could argue that having only 3 teams in the CL means the UEFA market pool money will be divided by 3 teams instead of 4, meaning more money for those 3 teams. However, this difference is insignificant when compared to the money made off TV rights and sponsors, which is more likely to increase with 4 teams in Europe, not 3.
In conclusion, we need to look past our hate right now. 3 CL spots for Italy is yet more bad exposure that does absolutely no good for the bottom line.
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