You don't. But my bestfriend, Manchester's fan supports Liverpool, Arsenal in CL
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That's silly, I hate all those teams. Why would I care how they do in the CL?
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Because I'm Serie A fan?
Because I like Totti's Roma, Maldini's Milan?
Because I can't stand English teams and Spanish teams? They never entertain me much.
Because I support the Italian NT? and It's only normal to admire Italian players that represent their NT in CL?
I don't see what's so difficult and hard in this.
Because I like Totti's Roma, Maldini's Milan?
Because I can't stand English teams and Spanish teams? They never entertain me much.
Because I support the Italian NT? and It's only normal to admire Italian players that represent their NT in CL?
I don't see what's so difficult and hard in this.
I used to have bit of sympathy for italian clubs before the calciopoli (mostly parma when they played in europe) but not anymore.
Everyone was happy when Juve were in serie B struggling to come back. Still remember that fucker Totti making jokes about Juve, moratti + berlousconi celebrating winning the CL and the league titles with berlousconi saying that milano's teams dominating everything (forza milan forza Inter remember that part).
Screw them all, they never liked this club why would anyone cheer for those motherfuckers.
Everyone was happy when Juve were in serie B struggling to come back. Still remember that fucker Totti making jokes about Juve, moratti + berlousconi celebrating winning the CL and the league titles with berlousconi saying that milano's teams dominating everything (forza milan forza Inter remember that part).
Screw them all, they never liked this club why would anyone cheer for those motherfuckers.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. There isn't any right and wrong in choosing who you want to support. But i personally find it too hard to cheer for United, Chelsea or Liverpool in the CL, they are our rivals. I'm too used to cheering against them, and i see absolutely no reason why i would cheer for them in the CL.
I support Arsenal, i don't support the EPL.
Exactly. I used not to cheer for our domestic rivals in Europe but it was when we had three Italian teams in the CL semis. The league was full of world class players and it was a dream for anyone to come and play in this league. Now you can't tempt the stars to sign for your team, the league is getting weaker and the weaker the league is, the weaker your team is becoming in the long run.
You're sure about this?
The 90's and early 2000's. Was serie A strong? Were the Italian teams winning a lot in Europe? Were they as strong as EPL and La Liga are now?
How did that help Inter, in Italy and Europe?
Does Barca's or Real's success make La Liga stronger or it only makes these two teams stronger?
EPL didn't become successful because of their team's success in Europe. From 1984 till 2004 the English won only 1 CL.
Their success in Europe wasn't the reason why the league developed so much. The country offered the foreign investors better conditions, the federation worked well on marketing, the clubs worked on long term planning. That's how they became successful and rich, not because of their success in Europe.
Milan won the CL in 2003, playing the CL final against Juve. Milan won the CL in 2007. If Milan won the CL in 2005 instead of Liverpool, do you think that it would've made serie A more competitive and attractive than the EPL?
I mean, it was less than 3 years ago when Milan won the CL. How did that help serie A?
The 90's and early 2000's. Was serie A strong? Were the Italian teams winning a lot in Europe? Were they as strong as EPL and La Liga are now?
How did that help Inter, in Italy and Europe?
Does Barca's or Real's success make La Liga stronger or it only makes these two teams stronger?
EPL didn't become successful because of their team's success in Europe. From 1984 till 2004 the English won only 1 CL.
Their success in Europe wasn't the reason why the league developed so much. The country offered the foreign investors better conditions, the federation worked well on marketing, the clubs worked on long term planning. That's how they became successful and rich, not because of their success in Europe.
Milan won the CL in 2003, playing the CL final against Juve. Milan won the CL in 2007. If Milan won the CL in 2005 instead of Liverpool, do you think that it would've made serie A more competitive and attractive than the EPL?
I mean, it was less than 3 years ago when Milan won the CL. How did that help serie A?
I know that there is truth in her words and I know that success in Europe does bring popularity. But that means shit without the rest I mentioned above.
The Italians had 2 teams in the CL final, won the bloody world cup and yet the league kept going down and down and down.
No disrespect to the Italian members here, but Italy is too xenophobic and when we talk about football, it's a really closed society. The foreigners don't refuse to invest in Italy due to insecurity. They're not welcomed at all. The Italians feel that they should lead and own the teams and no foreigner should interfere in their business.
They hardly ever let foreigners be coaches of their teams and they don't even think about foreigners owning the teams.
How many times did you read here Vinny wondering how can a frog be a director of the most successful Italian team?
They're simply against any foreign influence in their business.
Also, they don't even seem to work on improving the state in football. How many teams are investing in new stadiums? What is being done regarding the huge taxes teams pay for the wages?
On top of it, they shot themselves in the foot with Calciopoli.
Until all these things are fixed, you will not see two Italian teams in a CL semifinal and it's silly to hope two Italian teams to do great in Europe in order to improve the state of serie A. It just won't happen.
The Italians had 2 teams in the CL final, won the bloody world cup and yet the league kept going down and down and down.
No disrespect to the Italian members here, but Italy is too xenophobic and when we talk about football, it's a really closed society. The foreigners don't refuse to invest in Italy due to insecurity. They're not welcomed at all. The Italians feel that they should lead and own the teams and no foreigner should interfere in their business.
They hardly ever let foreigners be coaches of their teams and they don't even think about foreigners owning the teams.
How many times did you read here Vinny wondering how can a frog be a director of the most successful Italian team?
They're simply against any foreign influence in their business.
Also, they don't even seem to work on improving the state in football. How many teams are investing in new stadiums? What is being done regarding the huge taxes teams pay for the wages?
On top of it, they shot themselves in the foot with Calciopoli.
Until all these things are fixed, you will not see two Italian teams in a CL semifinal and it's silly to hope two Italian teams to do great in Europe in order to improve the state of serie A. It just won't happen.
That's true, the unwillingness to change for the better does hinder the league. But Italy never really needed foreign influence because they have won World Cups and Champions Leagues for decades. Although now with football changing towards a faster, more attacking sort of game, Italy will need new tactics along with new resources and venues.
England heading towards total Globalization is more of a weakness than anything else, but their minions won't tell you that. Kind of ironic that they generally hate Italian football but need an Italian to get them to win. Nothing but weakness when it comes to their football.
England heading towards total Globalization is more of a weakness than anything else, but their minions won't tell you that. Kind of ironic that they generally hate Italian football but need an Italian to get them to win. Nothing but weakness when it comes to their football.
I think its mainly because Serie A is in decline and at risk of losing not only the 4th CL spot but also its reputation as one of the big three. I like the Serie A and I want the level of competition and competing players to be top and we won't get there if Italian sides continue to fall in Europe.
If Serie A was equal to the EPL or better than I would care significantly less about the performances in Europe by teams that weren't Juventus. I don't care for the other Italian sides but I would like to see Serie A back to its former heights and to see the big Italian clubs as major forces in the CL again. It would also be great to see the smug sense of self satisfaction wiped off the faces of English pundits.
If the Serie A becomes a second rate league than Juventus will suffer in Europe.
If Serie A was equal to the EPL or better than I would care significantly less about the performances in Europe by teams that weren't Juventus. I don't care for the other Italian sides but I would like to see Serie A back to its former heights and to see the big Italian clubs as major forces in the CL again. It would also be great to see the smug sense of self satisfaction wiped off the faces of English pundits.
If the Serie A becomes a second rate league than Juventus will suffer in Europe.
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