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Bjerknes

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I know as much about him as you do about Modric. I've watched him in some international games, I know he signed for Leverkusen when 17. I know enough.
No, you don't. How many matches of him have you watched?


He was the most important player for Tottenham.

And you claimed they'll get relegated, which just goes to show your blind hatred for EPL and in this case Tottenham. No need to hide it.
No, I said I HOPE they get relegated, which I do. Of course I fucking do. :lol2:

"Kind of like", meaning "similar in a way". FFS, someone would think English is my first language, not yours.

I compaired them in a way that they bought require a higly effective midfield in order to shine. Which stands. I'd never compair their abilities because Tiago sucks. For lack of better arguements you're fabricating stuff.
Similar? Kind of? Same thing. You compared them without a doubt, as that was your original ploy. That's why you stated what you did.

And for somebody to spell compare wrong I don't think he should be lecturing me on my own language, you moron.

And no, I'm not making up stuff. You said Xavi is like Tiago. That's some dumbass shit, like claiming Modric is better than Diego.

But what do you know?!



I said "Xavi is a good player, Iniesta on the other hand is sick". I stated my opinion, you brought up Modric and called me a retard, again for lack of better arguements.

Again;
Fabregas, Pirlo, Iniesta, Seedorf, Xabi Alonso, etc. > Xavi

End of.
Ermmm, no. If so, Cesc, Pirlo, Seedorf, and Xabi would have had a better season, yes?

The fact you throw them all into the same boat shows you know nothing about this game. Stick your faggot Modric, Olic, and Klasnic.
 

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But he was put in another team, and he did admirably well, didn't he? Do you not agree that Xavi is a vital player for his NT too? Isn't that like saying, put DP in another team and he'd sink without a trace? In fact that would be more valid, because unlike DP for his NT, Xavi has always been a very good player for the Spanish NT. Now i'm not saying that DP wouldn't do well in another team, i'm just saying that if you say that about Xavi, then the same thing can be applied to DP.

Also, Cesc isn't as good as Xavi. Maybe in the future he will be, as Xavi wasn't as special as little Cesc is at 21. But then again, there's no guarantee that Cesc will develop anymore, maybe this is his peak, maybe not. We can speculate forever, but instead we can talk about the present. The present says that Xavi has always performed better than Cesc, both for his club and his NT.
Yes, but the NT is a different kind of thing. Still there he has Silva, Senna, Iniesta, etc. And I don't think Xavi sucks, I think he's a useful, hardworking player but not on the level on some other playmaking central midfielders. To answer you in short, I believe Spain would be much more formidable with Fabregas in place of Xavi.
 

Bjerknes

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He understand's perfectly but this is what he does. He completely ignores the other person's arguements, no matter how well they stand, and he fabricates stuff.

Kind of like debating with a wall. An immature, arrogant, spoilt wall.
Just like when you talk about your butt boy Modric.

The difference between you and me: I admit Donovan is a pansy. You, you defend Modric no matter what he does.

You, sir, are a fucking faggot.

Thank goodness we got Diego over that clown.

Forza Arkan.
 

Bjerknes

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Yes, but the NT is a different kind of thing. Still there he has Silva, Senna, Iniesta, etc. And I don't think Xavi sucks, I think he's a useful, hardworking player but not on the level on some other playmaking central midfielders. To answer you in short, I believe Spain would be much more formidable with Fabregas in place of Xavi.
And yet they still won.. shows how much you know.

:lol2:
 

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No, you don't. How many matches of him have you watched?




No, I said I HOPE they get relegated, which I do. Of course I fucking do. :lol2:



Similar? Kind of? Same thing. You compared them without a doubt, as that was your original ploy. That's why you stated what you did.

And for somebody to spell compare wrong I don't think he should be lecturing me on my own language, you moron.

And no, I'm not making up stuff. You said Xavi is like Tiago. That's some dumbass shit, like claiming Modric is better than Diego.

But what do you know?!





Ermmm, no. If so, Cesc, Pirlo, Seedorf, and Xabi would have had a better season, yes?

The fact you throw them all into the same boat shows you know nothing about this game. Stick your faggot Modric, Olic, and Klasnic.
You're a spoilt brat. I bet you cry to your mommy when things don't go your way, even when you're 23 years old. You've got no patience for debates and discussing with you is a complete waste of time. I'm done with it.
 

Fred

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Yes, but the NT is a different kind of thing. Still there he has Silva, Senna, Iniesta, etc. And I don't think Xavi sucks, I think he's a useful, hardworking player but not on the level on some other playmaking central midfielders. To answer you in short, I believe Spain would be much more formidable with Fabregas in place of Xavi.

So basically you're saying that Fabregas is better than Xavi, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.

But i don't think he is better yet, what convinced you that Cesc is better? His average season? Cesc is yet to have a better season than Xavi, plus he has been given a few chances to play for the NT and he hasn't played as well as Xavi has. For me Xavi is still better than Cesc.
 

Bjerknes

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You're a spoilt brat. I bet you cry to your mommy when things don't go your way, even when you're 23 years old. You've got no patience for debates and discussing with you is a complete waste of time. I'm done with it.
Look, you made a mistake to compare Xavi with Tiago. That is your fault.

That was the dumbest move of all, and your initial move.

It's not my fault you look like an imbecile, Vlatko. Xavi has so many assists you boy Modric could choke on a cock on it.

Problem is, you bring nothing to the table regarding arguments. All you spout is that Xavi has better players around him. That doesn't mean anything.

You're pathetic, just like when it comes to the Modric discussion, which is why I brought it up. Pa-thet-tic.

Just read the stats.
 

Bjerknes

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So basically you're saying that Fabregas is better than Xavi, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.

But i don't think he is better yet, what convinced you that Cesc is better? His average season? Cesc is yet to have a better season than Xavi, plus he has been given a few chances to play for the NT and he hasn't played as well as Xavi has. For me Xavi is still better than Cesc.
AND THIS IS COMING FROM AN ARSENAL FAN.

READ IT, YOU MORON.

READ IT GOOD.

Because we're tired of your fucking crap.
 

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So basically you're saying that Fabregas is better than Xavi, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.

But i don't think he is better yet, what convinced you that Cesc is better? His average season? Cesc is yet to have a better season than Xavi, plus he has been given a few chances to play for the NT and he hasn't played as well as Xavi has. For me Xavi is still better than Cesc.
That is exactly what I'm saying.

Yes, this season Fabregas has not been playing so well. But hell, Arsenal are crap and most of the players beside him are crap. Messi, Henry, Iniesta are not the same as Adebayor, Wallcot and Nasri. Put Xavi in current Arsenal and Fabregas in current Barca and there's no doubt in mind Fabregas would set the world alight and Xavi would disappear.
 

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Look, you made a mistake to compare Xavi with Tiago. That is your fault.

That was the dumbest move of all, and your initial move.

It's not my fault you look like an imbecile, Vlatko. Xavi has so many assists you boy Modric could choke on a cock on it.

Problem is, you bring nothing to the table regarding arguments. All you spout is that Xavi has better players around him. That doesn't mean anything.

You're pathetic, just like when it comes to the Modric discussion, which is why I brought it up. Pa-thet-tic.

Just read the stats.
"Well, that just confirms he's a retard."

"YOU GOT THAT?

Fucking moron."

"Stick your faggot Modric, Olic, and Klasnic."

"Just like when you talk about your butt boy Modric."

"You, sir, are a fucking faggot."

"Forza Arkan."

"It's not my fault you look like an imbecile, Vlatko. Xavi has so many assists you boy Modric could choke on a cock on it."



This is the gist of your 6 last posts. You're a brat. I won't argue with you anymore because you'll cry and probably spit on me.
 

Bjerknes

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And so what if I'm a spoiled brat? It's not like I have Croatia's national team running around me. They are better than we are, but jeez, fans like Vlatko are fucking faggots. I so hope Modric fucks it all up at Spurs.
 

sateeh

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That is exactly what I'm saying.

Yes, this season Fabregas has not been playing so well. But hell, Arsenal are crap and most of the players beside him are crap. Messi, Henry, Iniesta are not the same as Adebayor, Wallcot and Nasri. Put Xavi in current Arsenal and Fabregas in current Barca and there's no doubt in mind Fabregas would set the world alight and Xavi would disappear.
But both of them play for the Spanish NT and Xavi is the better player there as well. Same factors, different results.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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"Well, that just confirms he's a retard."

"YOU GOT THAT?

Fucking moron."

"Stick your faggot Modric, Olic, and Klasnic."

"Just like when you talk about your butt boy Modric."

"You, sir, are a fucking faggot."

"Forza Arkan."

"It's not my fault you look like an imbecile, Vlatko. Xavi has so many assists you boy Modric could choke on a cock on it."



This is the gist of your 6 last posts. You're a brat. I won't argue with you anymore because you'll cry and probably spit on me.
Fact is, Xavi has more assists than anybody in any league. Including Modric. That shows he's the best if you morons don't want to man up about the topic. Of course you won't, because you're biased.
 

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But both of them play for the Spanish NT and Xavi is the better player there as well. Same factors, different results.
Fabregas hardly played at the Euro, Aragones always prefered Xavi to him which was a wrong decision IMO.
 

Bjerknes

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Croatians are really strange. There are great fans like Alen who doesn't overrate their players, semi-objective fans like Barkuss who only love their top players, and then there are fans like Vlatko who love no matter who plays for them. Really outstanding.
 

Fred

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That is exactly what I'm saying.

Yes, this season Fabregas has not been playing so well. But hell, Arsenal are crap and most of the players beside him are crap. Messi, Henry, Iniesta are not the same as Adebayor, Wallcot and Nasri. Put Xavi in current Arsenal and Fabregas in current Barca and there's no doubt in mind Fabregas would set the world alight and Xavi would disappear.

Well yes, his poor season can be attributed in part to the lack of quality around him. But even last year, when he was at his best. Xavi was still a better player. Fact of the matter is, that Xavi is the more consistent of the two right now. Which makes him the better player. Even last year, which was Cesc's best season to date, he wasn't as consistent as Xavi was. He just dropped it in the last 2 months of the season.


But both of them play for the Spanish NT and Xavi is the better player there as well. Same factors, different results.
This is another thing to take into consideration Vlatko, they both play for the same NT, and Xavi has proven himself to be better even in the NT.
 
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