BUT!! In uefa they get much more points, and as i said Uefa win = CL win
Yes, i'm perfectly aware how UEFA counts the points. I know that a win/draw in UEFA Cup is equal to the win/draw in CL.
If Italians keep losing in Europe they do risk to lose the 3rd place, i know. But if you check better, you'll see that the Germans and the French aren't doing any better and it's really hard to expect them to take over the 3rd place from Italy.
The English and the Spanish made a big difference but it makes absolutely no difference if you're 1st, 2nd or 3rd in UEFA standings, because all of them give 4 teams in CL.
Italy lost a lot with Calciopoli. Teams like Empoli and Chievo were given a chance to represent them in Europe. That's why Italians lost ground. Now when the strongest teams are back, they will never let the Bundesliga take the 3rd place.
And also......i'm one of those who think that if you win the 4th place in the league you don't even deserve to play CL. I'm willing to take that risk only 3 Italian teams to play in CL. Like i said, it's hard to expect that to happen, but if it happens then so be it. We are Juve, we must be in top 3. If we won't, then we don't deserve CL.