[EU] Champions League 2007/2008 (25 Viewers)

[only-juve]

Essien misses next match and Cudicini injured. Liverpool in the 3rd final in four years.

From the start of this season i've predicted that either chelsea or man united will win this trophy (i don't why but chelsea seems closer to the title IMO).....

 

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[Martin]

Except he didn't get outcoached tonight. His team dominated the first 20 minutes and got the goal they were looking for and Liverpool only asserted themselves when Arsenal lost the key to their midfield, Flamini.

When Pool went 2-1 up Wenger reacted by bringing on Walcott and Van Persie and those changes were pivotal. Arsenal would be in the semifinals right now if not for Toure.

Outcoached by Toure, you could say..

 

[Stu]

Outcoached by Toure, you could say..

Precisely.

 

[Azzurri7]

No they could've had the game under control, but gave it away. 4 goals conceded in a CL game, you just won't win it if you let things like that happen.

Liverpool only scored 1goal from an open play....the 2nd one(Torres)

They conceded first goal from a corner kick, it's pretty hard to keep the game under control when you're playing away and specially when you're playing in CL where each goals counts.

IMO, he could have approached the game in a diff way at the start of the 2nd half, but I don't see any mistake he did from tactical point in the 1st half.

 

[Elvin]

97,98,03...

Yeah, losing 2 finals back to back, and 3 in a row was pretty damn painful.

 

[Stu]

Liverpool's first goal came from a set piece, no coach could have prevented the second goal, and the third goal was a penalty. The fourth goal is irrelevant because at that stage Arsenal had to throw caution to the wind. Hardly Wenger's fault.

 

[Azzurri7]

I wouldn't really count the 4th goal. Cause any team would throw all their 11players inside the box, it's a normal thing.

 

[Fred]

After this match i have come to one conclusion:

Fuck the ref, the cheating cunt, the fucker robbed us, and now i dont wish for him to die, but i'd really like it if his whole fuckin family got murdered, so he'll fucking know how we arsenal fans feel..Cunt!!!

 

[Stu]

After this match i have come to one conclusion:

Fuck the ref, the cheating cunt, the fucker robbed us, and now i dont wish for him to die, but i'd really like it if his whole fuckin family got murdered, so he'll fucking know how we arsenal fans feel..Cunt!!!

I'm assuming you don't think it was a penalty..

 

[Dominic]

Except he didn't get outcoached tonight. His team dominated the first 20 minutes and got the goal they were looking for and Liverpool only asserted themselves when Arsenal lost the key to their midfield, Flamini.

When Pool went 2-1 up Wenger reacted by bringing on Walcott and Van Persie and those changes were pivotal. Arsenal would be in the semifinals right now if not for Toure.

The Flamini thing was more coincedental than crucial. Arsenal gave their all the first 20 minutes, which had obvious repurcussions in the second half. They self-destructed and were dead-tired, Fabregas for example was completely exhausted in the second half. It allowed Liverpool back in the game, who were more conservative and controlled with their energy and pounced when it counted.

But yes, Toure's moment was crucial.

Liverpool only scored 1goal from an open play....the 2nd one(Torres)

They conceded first goal from a corner kick, it's pretty hard to keep the game under control when you're playing away and specially when you're playing in CL where each goals counts.

IMO, he could have approached the game in a diff way at the start of the 2nd half, but I don't see any mistake he did from tactical point in the 1st half.

Well you hit the nail on the head in your last paragraph...

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

After this match i have come to one conclusion:

Fuck the ref, the cheating cunt, the fucker robbed us, and now i dont wish for him to die, but i'd really like it if his whole fuckin family got murdered, so he'll fucking know how we arsenal fans feel..Cunt!!!

Don't imitate me.

 

[Fred]

I'm assuming you don't think it was a penalty..

That would be a safe assumption,yes.

The Flamini thing was more coincedental than crucial. Arsenal gave their all the first 20 minutes, which had obvious repurcussions in the second half. They self-destructed and were dead-tired, Fabregas for example was completely exhausted in the second half. It allowed Liverpool back in the game, who were more conservative and controlled with their energy and pounced when it counted.

thats not true at all, it was obvious we missed Flamini, we lost the midfield as soon as he went out. The same things been happening all season when Flamini doesnt play.

 

[Fred]

Don't imitate me.

Now i know how you feel like in those kind of situations.

 

[Dominic]

It's hard to judge, we can't know for sure, but I don't think Flamini's miss was the deciding factor tonight.

And it WAS a penalty.

 

[Dinsdale]

Arsenal need to get someone better than Senderos urgently.

 

[Fred]

It was never a penalty, he barely made contact with Babel, the cheating cunt dived. Have you seen the replays??

 

[Martin]

It was never a penalty, he barely made contact with Babel, the cheating cunt dived. Have you seen the replays??

Are you kidding? He was trying to steal his jersey.

 

[Stu]

The Flamini thing was more coincedental than crucial. Arsenal gave their all the first 20 minutes, which had obvious repurcussions in the second half. They self-destructed and were dead-tired, Fabregas for example was completely exhausted in the second half. It allowed Liverpool back in the game, who were more conservative and controlled with their energy and pounced when it counted.

But yes, Toure's moment was crucial.

How was it more coincidental than crucial? Flamini is arguably Arsenal's fittest player and hardest worker. His absence allowed Liverpool to control the midfield in the second half. Yes Fabregas was tired but not just because of his exertion in the first half. It was because he had Mascherano up his ass and Arsenal didn't have Flamini to do the same to Gerrard. I'm confident they wouldn't have been overrun like they were if Flamini was on the field.

 

[Alen]

Don't imitate me.

 

[Fred]

the Hleb incident last match had much more contact in it than this one, if that wasnt a penalty, then this isnt either.