[EU] Champions League 06/07 (25 Viewers)

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,644
overall i think this season has been poor in CL, it really has been.

mostly i think its about the competetive ability what makes it poor. it isnt that strong league like you would think logically considering 3-4 of every top european league sides will be playing there. bayern having their worst season in years, milan still reaching the final with all their problems. sure milan deserv credit for their record but lets be honest, they had a easy start, by far the weakest group, celtic isnt really that strong, they beat tham at home in extra time.
Then of all the teams they met bayern, weakest bayern in years, hitzfield wouldnt make the differants, if its plain obvious ballack is missed and there isnt enough creativity in the midfield, and that aint gona help if you play against the likes of kaka, gattuso.

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i dont know, maybe we should add the likes of river plates and sau paulos to the champions league.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,392
Hey you don't play smart with me cuz I'm not 12 year old kid who will fall on your tricks.

For me this discussion is over it will never end. You have your opinion I have mine. Respect mine and I will respect yours. And don't spit on other cuz they have their own opinion.
I wasn't neither playing smart nor spitting on anything. I will say it for the last time, it disgusts me to see Juve fans cheering for other teams, whether Juve where available or absent, you took my opinion personal.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
Have you seen the evidence? No. Milan are guilty which is why they didn't get last year's Scudetto and have had to play this season with the -9 handicap. We were the main wrong doers and so we were relegated. None of us can say that Milan's punishment is unfair because we haven't seen the evidence. The judges are not retards. If we didn't deserve relegation we would not have got it.
Maybe you're right but I still have my doubts and I'm sure they will come true in future. I know people are overreacting about us with statements that we are tottaly innocent, but we must admit that there has been some murky bussines and many things had left to explain.
 

peckface

approaching curve
Oct 3, 2004
2,357
Midzata™;1332205 said:
And how's that suppost to happen?
I won’t bullshit you that I believe the consequences will be vital for us, but I do need Serie A to be up there with the best. Because whatever reputation Juventus has is limited to the reputation of the league. And lets face it, the reputation is all we got to hang on to.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
I won’t bullshit you that I believe the consequences will be vital for us, but I do need Serie A to be up there with the best. Because whatever reputation Juventus has is limited to the reputation of the league. And lets face it, the reputation is all we got to hang on to.
True but maybe not that much. Many players are attracted by ambitious of the club and their position in him. From this point of view we are very ambitious side with many things to offer to the players, maybe not (actually 100% not) CL next season but for two seasons we can make a lot of progress and that's what the players appreciate. They can become a valuble part of our already rich history :agree:
 

Midzata®

Senior Member
Jan 26, 2007
1,152
I won’t bullshit you that I believe the consequences will be vital for us, but I do need Serie A to be up there with the best. Because whatever reputation Juventus has is limited to the reputation of the league. And lets face it, the reputation is all we got to hang on to.
Ohh, that's what you have meant?
I thought it's somehow connected with transfer and stufs...
 

peckface

approaching curve
Oct 3, 2004
2,357
True but maybe not that much. Many players are attracted by ambitious of the club and their position in him. From this point of view we are very ambitious side with many things to offer to the players, maybe not (actually 100% not) CL next season but for two seasons we can make a lot of progress and that's what the players appreciate. They can become a valuble part of our already rich history :agree:
Well I count the things you mentioned (except ambition) as reputation. :D

What kind of squad do we have right now? Bunch of 30+ dudes (love them all) and a bunch of youngsters. Doesn't really picture the ambition the club actually have. Plus money wise we're not even close to be able to compete with the European giants.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
Serie A is behind the Prem and La Liga. Milan winning can't change that.
Definitly can't change but it will help. It will bring ratio up and when we come back the league will be at the best again. I think in two seasons it could be the best league again if another Calciopolli doesn't happen.

Btw this Milan victory showed that the Italians evene when they are weakest they are one of the best. The sam goes with Italian NT.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
Well I count the things you mentioned (except ambition) as reputation. :D

What kind of squad do we have right now? Bunch of 30+ dudes (love them all) and a bunch of youngsters. Doesn't really picture the ambition the club actually have. Plus money wise we're not even close to be able to compete with the European giants.
Hehhehe you're right about reputation thing mostly :D

Now about bolded part: we cannot compete immediatly but in two seasons we can make a lot of things. And when you say to some good player who have a three more good seasons at his legs we want to make team to win the CL or Scudetto in 2-3 years, and you showing intention to really make that than you have argument on your side. (I'm not saying that our board showed strong intentions but I'm sure they will suprise us with a good signings)
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
All it shows is that Milan are a quality team. The best teams in Italy might be as good as the best in England and Spain, but the overall quality of the league just isn't there. Look at how strong the teams from 5th to 9th are in the EPL and La Liga. They would smoke Palermo and Empoli.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,392
All it shows is that Milan are a quality team. The best teams in Italy might be as good as the best in England and Spain, but the overall quality of the league just isn't there. Look at how strong the teams from 5th to 9th are in the EPL and La Liga. They would smoke Palermo and Empoli.
True that, it will only show statistics, ratios and numbers that in reality mean nothing.
 

peckface

approaching curve
Oct 3, 2004
2,357
Hehhehe you're right about reputation thing mostly :D

Now about bolded part: we cannot compete immediatly but in two seasons we can make a lot of things. And when you say to some good player who have a three more good seasons at his legs we want to make team to win the CL or Scudetto in 2-3 years, and you showing intention to really make that than you have argument on your side. (I'm not saying that our board showed strong intentions but I'm sure they will suprise us with a good signings)
Yep I sure hope so, the future will tell. I just hope our rivals can keep the league going in the meantime.
 

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