[ENG] Premiership 2007/2008 (37 Viewers)

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Fabregas23

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Clichy has been brilliant so far. Sometimes his decision-making can be a bit off and he takes risks like trying to get throw-ins by kicking against a player, which can be risky if it doesn't work. That's what makes him good though, he's got balls. He looked in a different league to Nicky Shorey on Monday; a supposed England quality left back.

I would give Evra the slight edge over Clichy. Both about the same defensively but Evra better in the final third. Clichy runs like a train and then grinds to a halt once he gets near the opposition's penalty area.
 

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Fabregas23

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Kaka won the battle with Cristiano Ronaldo hands down when Milan played United last year. Kaka proved in those games he is probably joint best player in the world with Messi and........ Hleb. Just kidding.
 

Fred

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Clichy has been brilliant so far. Sometimes his decision-making can be a bit off and he takes risks like trying to get throw-ins by kicking against a player, which can be risky if it doesn't work. That's what makes him good though, he's got balls. He looked in a different league to Nicky Shorey on Monday; a supposed England quality left back.

I would give Evra the slight edge over Clichy. Both about the same defensively but Evra better in the final third. Clichy runs like a train and then grinds to a halt once he gets near the opposition's penalty area.
i agree about his decision making..and like i said he should improve his final ball..evra is much better than him in the final third..but defensively he's much better than Evra imo..Evra leaves a lot of gaps behind..and defending one on one he isnt as good as Clichy..,which imo gives Gael the edge over Evra..not to mention Clichy is still 21-22 meaning theres lots of room for improvement
Kaka won the battle with Cristiano Ronaldo hands down when Milan played United last year. Kaka proved in those games he is probably joint best player in the world with Messi and........ Hleb. Just kidding.
:lol: I like you already mate
 
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Not to me.... Many people would see Ronaldo the better player because they enjoy watching the "pony show" he makes on the field.

I myself, enjoy the hard-work, passes good vision and etc...the likes of Hleb, Rosicky, Pirlo, Diego etc are much more fun to watch than the likes of C. Ronaldo, Robinho and Messi.
Messi is smthing else,he is the next best thing.
Robinho & C.Ronaldo can make wonders on one or 2 matches & then fade for 3 weeks but Messi is always on fire,his touch on the ball is just enough.
He also has the vision & great assists that the likes of Diego,Pirlo & Rosicky has.

I would be so hyped if Messi went to Arsenal(which will never happen).
Arsene can get the best out of the boy,I think he should not be always a winger,he should play on the wing but he should have the freedom to go back & go on from the middle.

Imagine Messi at Juve:santa: !
 

Fred

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Messi is indeed special...the best player in the world for me..but its way too early to say he'll be as good as Pele or Maradona..dont forget Pele won a WC at the age of 17 and Maradona won it aged 19.
 
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Messi is indeed special...the best player in the world for me..but its way too early to say he'll be as good as Pele or Maradona..dont forget Pele won a WC at the age of 17 and Maradona won it aged 19.
Agreed on the best player in the world.
Right now Messi is nowhere near Pele or Marradona,it is all about achievements,he still didnt achieve smthing big.
All I am saying is that,if he didnt pick a horrible injury & styaed on his level.he could be the Next Big Thing.
 

HelterSkelter

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I wouldnt call Messi the best player in the world right.Id say its a toss up between Ronaldo(I HATE admitting it) and Zlatan.Though im sure Messi will be there in a year's time or so.He's definatley the best young player in the world right now though.
 

denco

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Messi is indeed special...the best player in the world for me..but its way too early to say he'll be as good as Pele or Maradona..dont forget Pele won a WC at the age of 17 and Maradona won it aged 19.
He was 26 when he won it in 1986. Messi is definitely the best Argentine player to have come since Maradona. Is he the best right now? I think so. Ronaldo has not hit the heights of last season but as someone reminded me yesterday, he is almost into double figures this season.

The major difference betwen Maradona and Messi is Messi does not have the passing abilityand skill on dead ball situations, apart form that the similarities are uncanny.

In the premiership I still think as of now Fabregas reigns supreme
 
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He was 26 when he won it in 1986. Messi is definitely the best Argentine player to have come since Maradona. Is he the best right now? I think so. Ronaldo has not hit the heights of last season but as someone reminded me yesterday, he is almost into double figures this season.

The major difference betwen Maradona and Messi is Messi does not have the passing abilityand skill on dead ball situations, apart form that the similarities are uncanny.

In the premiership I still think as of now Fabregas reigns supreme
Agreed about Cesc.

But why is everybody puuting Kaka out of the formula of the best player in the world.
Actually I am 100% sure he will take the Ballon D'or this year,maybe in recent weeks Kaka didnt perform like last year but still,I'd saqy Kaka & Messi are the best players in the world right now.
 

Bozi

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I wouldnt call Messi the best player in the world right.Id say its a toss up between Ronaldo(I HATE admitting it) and Zlatan.Though im sure Messi will be there in a year's time or so.He's definatley the best young player in the world right now though.
:faq2: Kaka?sure its hard to shine in a team that is struggling but he has still shown his class already this season
 

Fred

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I wouldnt call Messi the best player in the world right.Id say its a toss up between Ronaldo(I HATE admitting it) and Zlatan.Though im sure Messi will be there in a year's time or so.He's definatley the best young player in the world right now though.
in terms of pure ability i think Messi is better than C.Ronaldo and Zlatan combined..Kaka will win the Ballon d'or this season and deservedly so for his CL performances last season.But i think in terms of pure ability Messi just edges it.

He was 26 when he won it in 1986. Messi is definitely the best Argentine player to have come since Maradona. Is he the best right now? I think so. Ronaldo has not hit the heights of last season but as someone reminded me yesterday, he is almost into double figures this season.

The major difference betwen Maradona and Messi is Messi does not have the passing abilityand skill on dead ball situations, apart form that the similarities are uncanny.

In the premiership I still think as of now Fabregas reigns supreme
I meant 1978..if i'm not mistaken,he did play in that WC, didn't he??
 

denco

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in terms of pure ability i think Messi is better than C.Ronaldo and Zlatan combined..Kaka will win the Ballon d'or this season and deservedly so for his CL performances last season.But i think in terms of pure ability Messi just edges it.



I meant 1978..if i'm not mistaken,he did play in that WC, didn't he??
Nope it was between himself and Ricky Villa for Cesar Luiz Menotti to pick and Cesar went for Ricky Villa and instead picked maradona a year later for the under 20 championships that he inspired Argentina to win with Ramon Diaz also shining with his goals.

Kaka would win world player of the year as he deserves it but I still place Messi higher in terms of ability but Kaka maybe slightly more effective and would always score more goals I think.

It is more difficult to get the ball off Messi and Ronaldo than it is kaka imo
 

Fred

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Nope it was between himself and Ricky Villa for Cesar Luiz Menotti to pick and Cesar went for Ricky Villa and instead picked maradona a year later for the under 20 championships that he inspired Argentina to win with Ramon Diaz also shining with his goals.
i see...


Kaka would win world player of the year as he deserves it but I still place Messi higher in terms of ability but Kaka maybe slightly more effective and would always score more goals I think.


my sentiments exactly..Messi is higher than kaka in terms of pure ability..Kaka is more effective now..mostly due to the fact that he's more mature though.
 

HelterSkelter

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:faq2: Kaka?sure its hard to shine in a team that is struggling but he has still shown his class already this season
My bad.I completley forgot about Kaka.Like Weasley has already said,Kaka should get the Ballon d'or this season and deservedly so.Though i dont think he's been as brilliant this season as he was last season.Half his mind is probably in Madrid already.
 

Bozi

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My bad.I completley forgot about Kaka.Like Weasley has already said,Kaka should get the Ballon d'or this season and deservedly so.Though i dont think he's been as brilliant this season as he was last season.Half his mind is probably in Madrid already.
probably, or chelsea
 

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Adriano Set For Arsenal?

Reports in Italy suggest that Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger could be lining up a sensational loan swoop for troubled Inter striker Adriano.

The 25-year-old Brazilian has had a nightmare spell on-and-off the field in the past 18 months and has made just four league appearances this season for the Nerazzurri.

Adriano, who recently admitted that he still suffers from depression, has flown off to Brazil for clinical rehabilitation and is not due to return to Italy until the first week in January.

Inter will then immediately invite loan offers for him and Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is believed to be interested.

Wenger currently has four natural strikers in the shape of Robin Van Persie, Emmanuel Adebayor, Eduardo Da Silva and Nicklas Bendtner. The latter is keen to gain more first team football and may be sent out on loan in January, thus paving the way for Adriano.

While 'The Emperor’, who is eligible to play in the Champions League, would move to the Emirates Stadium, out-of-favour Gunners’ midfielder Gilberto Silva would travel the other way to San Siro.

Gilberto is keen to leave Arsenal after losing his place in the team to Frenchman Matthieu Flamini.

Inter are in desperate need of midfield reinforcements as Patrick Vieira is constantly injured, while Luis Figo is out for a number of months after fracturing his leg.

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