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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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cavani before his move to PSG was the consummate 9, he has it all and is hard working a la tevez
:agree:

People have this tendency to qualify things with statements like "without injuries"... Fitness and injury avoidance play a part in separating the very best from those who could have been the very best. Cavani is miles ahead of Aguero for that reason alone. He's one of the fittest and most durable top strikers out there.

I'd place Suarez > Cavani > Tevez > Aguero


And :lol: at Osman for comparing Aguero to Romario. That's bad man. :p
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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:agree:

People have this tendency to qualify things with statements like "without injuries"... Fitness and injury avoidance play a part in separating the very best from those who could have been the very best. Cavani is miles ahead of Aguero for that reason alone. He's one of the fittest and most durable top strikers out there.

I'd place Suarez > Cavani > Tevez > Aguero


And :lol: at Osman for comparing Aguero to Romario. That's bad man. :p
Miles ahead lol.Dude stop it.

Aguero with injuries is still better than Cavani will ever be.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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He fits home in Italy alot more as a culture (reason why he is not self-sabotagin his career here like he did in England) and its football and our team suits him more then the English game (even if he is made for the english one too with how he plays).
I agree here. That will almost always be the case with South American players. They tend to thrive in more familiar surroundings like Italy or Spain.

But rest assured this dude suddenly didnt start to perform as a top class player at 31 (lol that you are the one saying others underrate him too, wtf), are you kidding me...
I've seen Tevez in City, somewhat less in West Ham, and there's no doubt that his game has improved in general over the time. No one is denying that he was very good player before, but now he looks like a player that could genuinely be a candidate for the highest individual silverware. That was never the case during his time in England. Over the 7 years while he played for English clubs and in close to 40 appearances he managed to score mere 6 goals between the CL and EL. Pretty abysmal stat for a player of his qualities. Surely you can see the difference when you take this season into consideration in which he already scored 6 goals and has been pivotal in the most important games in the CL, therefore his experience in Italy undoubtedly was a factor for him becoming more effective player as far as European competitions are concerned and consequently somewhat better player.


e was a bonafide stud and star in Boca, very young but Copa Libertadores hero and champion. Briefly too for Corinthians (great first season) in that bizzare move, total hero for West Ham (in even more bizzare move) and kept them up, despite getting lost in the work hard and fight mentality of it all, and didnt attack so much as he could at all, more like a midfielder, aka Rooney syndrom. Absolutely class for United despite being a loaned bench player for most of it (best off the bench player a team has had in long time).
Come on now, you cannot possibly expect me to believe that you followed Tevez while he played for Corinthians or Boca. Nice try in any case.

And He WAS the go to guy top striker for City in the same way he has been for us in the first 2 world class seasons before his issues and disgruntled state of mind started. First player to make them a top team by humbling the established teams and in overall opponents. Even scoring the same numbers: First season 35/23 second one: 31/20.
He could always score plenty of goals in the league, which was never argued in the first place.


Fondly remember him putting Chelsea to the sword on a regular basis.
Chelsea isn't a benchmark of how good certain player is, but European games most certainly are and Tevez underachieved for whatever the reason (that is if you don't accept that his Italian experience helped him in this respect) until now.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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And :lol: at Osman for comparing Aguero to Romario. That's bad man. :p
Not quality but style dude, Aguero is ice cold and moves in a way that reminds me of Romario, ofcourse without the godly I dont give a fuck calm and collected attitude that Romario carried with every supremely divine touch of the ball.


btw, I love the overall package of Cavani, he was my dream signing to build an attack on simply because he is so complete as a striker. But Aguero pretty much would run rings around him in ability alone.


Btw, I regurarly watch this clip every year (not overall his career clip, just how small collection of what he did with the ball when it was in the air...), just to remind myself of my childhood and wtf I witnessed when I used to see him play. truly insanely inspiring shit.





Pure fucking magic with every touch.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,064
:agree:

People have this tendency to qualify things with statements like "without injuries"... Fitness and injury avoidance play a part in separating the very best from those who could have been the very best. Cavani is miles ahead of Aguero for that reason alone. He's one of the fittest and most durable top strikers out there.

I'd place Suarez > Cavani > Tevez > Aguero


And :lol: at Osman for comparing Aguero to Romario. That's bad man. :p
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Suarez definitely.I'll alter Osman's last statement and say Suarez is the non Messi-CR attacker i dream of.

Aguero is definitely better than Cavani.No doubt imo.
:lol2:
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Those who think this current Cavani is better than Aguero who by the way has the best goal to games ratio in Premier League history stand in a very small minority anyway.

Its probably fair to say you'd rather have Cavani on your team than Aguero because the former rarely gets injured but to use that as a tool to compare both despite the gulf in class in the footballing ability of either is quite ridiculous.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,064
Cavani plays as a RW/LW for PSG in most games, obviously he can't score as many goals as Aguero for the time being. While he was playing as a striker Cavani was regularly scoring 30-40 goals per season and added at least 10-15 assists to his name. Superior player by all means.

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DelPiero84's rather lame attempt to hype Serie A in this context backfired for him pretty badly :rofl:

'Tevez became a game-changer only when he came to Serie A' :touched: gg
Certainly did in Europe. His Serie A experience has been extrememely important in him becoming one of the best forwards these days.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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-Tevez was misused at United.He was either used as a sub or played outwide on the right wing.Despite that he still put up some impressive performances,and in Europe.
-The following two years while he was at City,they did not participate in the CL.In subsequent seasons when City did qualify,we all know what followed when there was a lot of friction between himself and the coach.Actually he didnt even get to play much in the limited appearances City made in the competition.
-Not totally defending his rather underwhelming record in Europe but those stats before this season hides a lot of context.It says only one side of the story.
And i dont know what having 'Serie A experience' has got to do with his European record.Did you conveniently ignore that he failed to score a single goal in last season's edition ?
Seems like you're deliberately trying to bash the quality of the premier league and at the same time bigging up Serie A's quality level but unfortunately for you,its coming at the expense of vastly underrating Tevez' quality while he was at the PL.A typical agenda driven post from you,not that its surprising.

Tevez was a world class forward in the EPL,one of the league's best players in his prime,end of.Serie A experience has got nothing to do with his scoring prowess in the CL this yr.I'd argue that Tevez' stint at City while he was carrying the team on the back of his shoulders is better than this current version.
 

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