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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Thierry was and is a million times better than Totti.
Talking about an overstatement. Very different set of skills, positions they played (Totti was attacking mid/TQ throughout most of his career, while Henry was pure striker in Arsenal), sets them apart and makes any comparison rather difficult to make. Totti excelled in a league that was rightly considered as defensively most challenging for any offensive player of that time, offered limited space to operate between the lines and required from players to have more facets to their game to succeed, but this surrounding is where Totti, due to his immense creativity and ingenuity, thrived, while Henry found perfect setting for his set of skills, competition that have always put more emphasis on physical attributes and was quite brilliant player to watch for better part of the last decade.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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I'd put 'em on the same level pretty much.

I think Totti's ability as a footballer would be valued much higher in here if he wasn't so incredibly unlikable.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Not at all. Thierry Henry played at clubs where he wasn't always the focal point of everything, and won at those clubs, and won with his national team while actually scoring goals for them.

Totti played for a consistently mediocre Roma and won almost nothing in his entire career there. He was the focal point of that team always, and play was directed towards and through him, which explains his high number of goals and assists, but also explains why Roma never won anything, even though they consistently spent quite a bit of money.

TO see just how blatant the difference is, one just has to look at a stage where Totti wasn't the focal point of attack in every match. The national teams.

Totti with 9 goals in 58 appearances, Henry with 51 goals in 123 appearances.

Totti is an overrated and glorified Di Natale. Nothing more.

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I'd put 'em on the same level pretty much.

I think Totti's ability as a footballer would be valued much higher in here if he wasn't so incredibly unlikable.

No way. Totti is not even close. Not in goals scored, not in trophies won, not in international play.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Not rubbish at all. Totti and Di Natale have similar careers, only Totti played for a slightly bigger club in Roma, and because of that won a trophy or two. With the national team, even Di Natale managed to do more than Totti in terms of individual performance. 11 goals in 42 matches to Totti's 9 in 58. Totti was and is an overrated turd. Roma played through and for him for all these years, which is part of the reason they've never won much, but also the reason for his inflated stats. If he was at a big club, he'd have been a footnote there. He'd have been like a Michael Owen or David Beckham at Real Madrid, just a bit part player with mediocre stats.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I'd put 'em on the same level pretty much.

I think Totti's ability as a footballer would be valued much higher in here if he wasn't so incredibly unlikable.
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Not at all. Thierry Henry played at clubs where he wasn't always the focal point of everything, and won at those clubs, and won with his national team while actually scoring goals for them.

Totti played for a consistently mediocre Roma and won almost nothing in his entire career there. He was the focal point of that team always, and play was directed towards and through him, which explains his high number of goals and assists, but also explains why Roma never won anything, even though they consistently spent quite a bit of money.

TO see just how blatant the difference is, one just has to look at a stage where Totti wasn't the focal point of attack in every match. The national teams.

Totti with 9 goals in 58 appearances, Henry with 51 goals in 123 appearances.

Totti is an overrated and glorified Di Natale. Nothing more.

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No way. Totti is not even close. Not in goals scored, not in trophies won, not in international play.
you went off the deep end there bud :D
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,053
Not rubbish at all. Totti and Di Natale have similar careers, only Totti played for a slightly bigger club in Roma, and because of that won a trophy or two. With the national team, even Di Natale managed to do more than Totti in terms of individual performance. 11 goals in 42 matches to Totti's 9 in 58. Totti was and is and overrated turd. Roma played through and for him for all these years, which is part of the reason they've never won much, but also the reason for his inflated stats. If he was at a big club, he'd have been a footnote there. He'd have been like a Michael Owen or David Beckham at Real Madrid, just a bit part player with mediocre stats.
Totti in his peak years would have got him at a bigger club (had it not been for his loyalty to roma), Di Natale not so that is the difference
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,197
Not at all. Thierry Henry played at clubs where he wasn't always the focal point of everything, and won at those clubs, and won with his national team while actually scoring goals for them.

Totti played for a consistently mediocre Roma and won almost nothing in his entire career there. He was the focal point of that team always, and play was directed towards and through him, which explains his high number of goals and assists, but also explains why Roma never won anything, even though they consistently spent quite a bit of money.

TO see just how blatant the difference is, one just has to look at a stage where Totti wasn't the focal point of attack in every match. The national teams.

Totti with 9 goals in 58 appearances, Henry with 51 goals in 123 appearances.

Totti is an overrated and glorified Di Natale. Nothing more.

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No way. Totti is not even close. Not in goals scored, not in trophies won, not in international play.
Yet there is many on here, who even say that Totti was better than Del Piero. You can basically substitute DP's name with Henry's in your post, and it would ring true.

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@PostIronic is absolutely right.

It's actually not even a fair comparison.
Totti is EASILY the most overrated player in Serie A fan circles. Even more than Maldini (who actually won a lot of stuff)
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,053
People putting Totti on the same level as the legend that is Thierry Henry in this thread. :sergio:
I never suggested that, in fact I wouldn't but at the same time I don't think Totti is a glorified version of Di Natale as you put it. If you ask me I think totti's career has been somewhat over looked because he was too loyal to roma as well as his cuntish personality, same could be said about de rossi, I think they could have achieved so much more at a bigger club when they had the opportunity to move
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
Totti is EASILY the most overrated player in Serie A fan circles. Even more than Maldini (who actually won a lot of stuff)
Maldini :inter:

Scum of the scum. The worse kind of scum you will find, and he had to be a Milanista.

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I never suggested that, in fact I wouldn't but at the same time I don't think Totti is a glorified version of Di Natale as you put it. If you ask me I think totti's career has been somewhat over looked because he was too loyal to roma as well as his cuntish personality, same could be said about de rossi, I think they could have achieved so much more at a bigger club when they had the opportunity to move
The fact he didn't move doesn't necessarily mean he's loyal. If I were Totti, I wouldn't want to move away from Roma neither when I'm considered a king there and can do basically what I want like him.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Thierry Henry French National team 123 appearances 51 goals (incl. 11 WC and EURO goals) Champions League 118 appearances 50 goals 16 assists

Francesco Totti Italy National team 58 appearances 9 goals (incl. 3 WC and EURO goals) Champions league 55 appearances 18 goals 11 assists

And people want to claim that Totti is on the same level. :sergio:
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Yet there is many on here, who even say that Totti was better than Del Piero. You can basically substitute DP's name with Henry's in your post, and it would ring true.
:agree:

Although I'd probably place Henry above Del Piero, and then Del Piero above Totti, although I think if Del Piero doesn't have that injury of his, he would have been at an entirely different level from even Henry. That 1997/98 season he had was by far better than anything Henry or Totti ever had.
 

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