Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (14 Viewers)
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Ah, thats like the worst worst case scenario, i give it 1% it could happen, that we need it. I think our midfield is perfectly fine generally and Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanić can win us CL. Lemina can be useful as can be Asa and Sturaro already proved his worth to this team. Add Hernanes, who can definitely play against bottom 12/13 teams in Serie A and I think we could reach our goals this year.
There clearly weren't any "Juve-worthy" CMs on the market that we could realistically get. Im sure Beppe tried to enhance our midfield, Pjanić for one is a huge creative upgrade. Let's see how it works during the season.
There clearly weren't any "Juve-worthy" CMs on the market that we could realistically get. Im sure Beppe tried to enhance our midfield, Pjanić for one is a huge creative upgrade. Let's see how it works during the season.
If Pjanic-Khedira-Marchisio were all fit and healthy and barely injured, then we could make a case for this being a great midfield but this is just an ideal scenario.
We have one player who'll be coming back off an ACL injury. One player who has to integrate into the team and fully get used to his new role. And finally one player who has been sort of start-stop for like a good 2-3 years. Taking all these factors into consideration, it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that we could win CL with this midfield. Not to mention that midfield is not exactly the most athletic midfield either.
Actually, I hope we don't play A Pjanic-Khedira-Marchisio midfield against a big CL opponent.
We have one player who'll be coming back off an ACL injury. One player who has to integrate into the team and fully get used to his new role. And finally one player who has been sort of start-stop for like a good 2-3 years. Taking all these factors into consideration, it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence that we could win CL with this midfield. Not to mention that midfield is not exactly the most athletic midfield either.
Actually, I hope we don't play A Pjanic-Khedira-Marchisio midfield against a big CL opponent.
Athletic?
Was Rakitic-Busquets-Iniesta super athletic? Nope. Even less so during the days of Xavi instead of Rakitic.
Is Casemiro/Isco-Kroos-Modric super athletic? Nope.
Marchisio-Pjanic-Khedira easily has enough athleticism. You don't have to be an Olympic level sprinter to be athletic. That midfield trio would be brilliant against big sides. The football IQ there would be off the charts.
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We risk it because Beppe made a poor choice last summer in selling Vidal. Should have sold that dabbing twat instead and made Vidal a long-term offer, regardless of his off-field issues.
You can worry Klin. My good Juju will make sure Khedira is a beast all year.
Was Rakitic-Busquets-Iniesta super athletic? Nope. Even less so during the days of Xavi instead of Rakitic.
Is Casemiro/Isco-Kroos-Modric super athletic? Nope.
Marchisio-Pjanic-Khedira easily has enough athleticism. You don't have to be an Olympic level sprinter to be athletic. That midfield trio would be brilliant against big sides. The football IQ there would be off the charts.
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That's a really big risk to take if you're going all out for the CL. Why risk it?
And sorry, but you betting on it doesn't exactly make my worries go away.
And sorry, but you betting on it doesn't exactly make my worries go away.
You can worry Klin. My good Juju will make sure Khedira is a beast all year.
Please do not compare midfields of other teams who play in different setups in different systems with different style of play.
We are a team that like to dominate but also sit deep when required. When you go from a Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba midfield to Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanic, you know you've lost a lot of athleticism in midfield. There is no two ways about it. No one says we need Olympic sprinters in midfield, don't try to stupidly exaggerate everything. It's as silly as when you were saying Pogba was levels above Iniesta before he got sold.
People having concerns about this current midfield is totally justified considering injury issues.
We are a team that like to dominate but also sit deep when required. When you go from a Vidal-Marchisio-Pogba midfield to Khedira-Marchisio-Pjanic, you know you've lost a lot of athleticism in midfield. There is no two ways about it. No one says we need Olympic sprinters in midfield, don't try to stupidly exaggerate everything. It's as silly as when you were saying Pogba was levels above Iniesta before he got sold.
People having concerns about this current midfield is totally justified considering injury issues.
http://m.tuttojuve.com/calciomercat...ventus-non-spendera-tanto-per-spendere-331233
Massimo pavan direttore TJ said juve will buy wistel for next year for free and said he is not pogba but he is good player
Massimo pavan direttore TJ said juve will buy wistel for next year for free and said he is not pogba but he is good player
At this point Matuidi or Witsel wouldn't be the end of the world.
Key CMs - 1) Khedira, 2) Marchisio, 3) Pjanic, 4) Matuidi/Witsel, 5) Asamoah, 6) Lemina + Sturaro & Mandragora (who both wouldn't make the UCL cut).
That should be good for 3 positions in midfield especially since the first 4 have adequate experience and dependability with their respective national teams / UCL.
Having Cuadrado as someone said above, also gives us the option to revert to different systems if we face a CM injury crisis that compromises the quality of the overall mids.
Key CMs - 1) Khedira, 2) Marchisio, 3) Pjanic, 4) Matuidi/Witsel, 5) Asamoah, 6) Lemina + Sturaro & Mandragora (who both wouldn't make the UCL cut).
That should be good for 3 positions in midfield especially since the first 4 have adequate experience and dependability with their respective national teams / UCL.
Having Cuadrado as someone said above, also gives us the option to revert to different systems if we face a CM injury crisis that compromises the quality of the overall mids.
Has Benatia ever played as a right back in a back 4 before? If we get Cuadrado we would have the wing back situation still covered. But if Alves is not available we would need a right back. Its a little late in the window for that.
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By the way, he has 1 year left on his contract. He may not want to leave but he probably does not want to renew and then he can pick his club after the season.
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By the way, he has 1 year left on his contract. He may not want to leave but he probably does not want to renew and then he can pick his club after the season.
Interesting that Mourinho regarded Khedira as the best holding midfielder back in 2012 prior to his cruciate ligament injury. Who was it that claimed it was absurd to call Khedira world class again?
We've been using him with great succes as more of a box-box midfielder, but it shows that our midfied possess a lot of flexibility, and therefore we should rather target a central midfielder where quality > position/role.
We've been using him with great succes as more of a box-box midfielder, but it shows that our midfied possess a lot of flexibility, and therefore we should rather target a central midfielder where quality > position/role.
I dont think anyone here doubt the quality of Khedira - He is a great player who has an injury problem!
Marchisio is the one who is overrated to me even if he is a great player, he is not as great as this forum makes of him...
IMO our midfield quality is now: 1. Pjanic 2. Khedira 3. Marchisio
IMO we need 1 great player who is equal or better than Khedira to complete our mid since Khedira gets injured from time to time and Marchisio sometimes takes his ghostish approach...
Marchisio is the one who is overrated to me even if he is a great player, he is not as great as this forum makes of him...
IMO our midfield quality is now: 1. Pjanic 2. Khedira 3. Marchisio
IMO we need 1 great player who is equal or better than Khedira to complete our mid since Khedira gets injured from time to time and Marchisio sometimes takes his ghostish approach...
so if hernanes to genoa and we bring witsel/matuidi+cuadrado, that leaves us with sturaro being the worst first team player. is he the best 'worst first-team player' on earth?
my point is
as with social welfare in any country, you are as good as your weakest people are.
so to lift the welfare quality in any country you have to lift the lifes of the poorest
and to lift the quality of the team you have to improve with worst players - having stars in the team is irrelevant
my point is
as with social welfare in any country, you are as good as your weakest people are.
so to lift the welfare quality in any country you have to lift the lifes of the poorest
and to lift the quality of the team you have to improve with worst players - having stars in the team is irrelevant
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