Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (44 Viewers)

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Hydde

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hes also on higher wages and cost us 18M while its debatable if hes better or as good as Sturaro right now. we should sell now while we can, keeping him is too risky, and its not like hes a key member of the team anyway
Salary is another matter indeed. But seeing what Asamoah has done and what Sturaro has done it's not all that difficult to win a debate on who's the best player...
The problem with Asa is that people is talking still like if he was on form, when he is a has been since 2 seasons ago. And super injury prone on high wages on top of that. really, he is not worth the cost and risk and space anymore. Nostalgia aside, he should be sold.

So all I'm saying is it's a very close call. The one midfield is not at all clearly better than the other.
Potentially, this midfield can be way better than our Vidal Pirlo Cheesio, because in that team Marchisio was not beasting, Pirlo was declining slowly but surely (he never was able to replicate his first season form) and the only real world class was VIdal, which on his prime he was the best in the world.

Now, if we are able to assemble the midfield we hope.... i think the ceiling will go way higher because we will have Pogba on his prime , Marchisio in his best role and a lot of very technical players running around them.

Im very positive that this new midfield, if they gel, will be something we havent seen before in a lot of years.
 

Jem83

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Moggi was great, no doubt about it, but I actually think the Great Man is stronger. Cause Moggi operated at a time when Italien football wasn't as weak as it is now. The climate Beppe is operating in is much more difficult, yet he is still able to make us appear (because we are) a BASTION. I love Beppe for that, cause it's definitely no easy feat. While richer clubs are too busy ending up 15 points behind Leicester, Beppe is - together with Paratici, Nedved and Agnelli who also deserve big shoutouts - working his ass off to make us the best we can be.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Moggi was great, no doubt about it, but I actually think the Great Man is stronger. Cause Moggi operated at a time when Italien football wasn't as weak as it is now. The climate Beppe is operating in is much more difficult, yet he is still able to make us appear (because we are) a BASTION. I love Beppe for that, cause it's definitely no easy feat. While richer clubs are too busy ending up 15 points behind Leicester, Beppe is - together with Paratici, Nedved and Agnelli who also deserve big shoutouts - working his ass off to make us the best we can be.
:tup:
 

italiacalcio10

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Mar 3, 2014
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I wouldn't bother with Kovacic.

If we do indeed sell Asomoah and Pereyra, they nearly funds Pjanic. We can still spend a lot more. I wouldn't settle for Pjanic only. He really is better as a regista. They should buy a trequartista as well.

My perfect mercato would see us evalulate all of the following:
-ship off players a number of none-core players or players with inflated prices: Padoin, Neto, Asamoah, Zaza, Pereyra, Caceres, Lichtsteiner (if Chelsea is willing to pay 15-20 million), Hernanes to China (he is a good depth option, but for the right fee, I'd sell), Sturaro (once again if fee is staggering, but I'd lean to keep him)
-Complete the rumoured deals: Alves, Pjanic, Berardi (although I am skeptical on how he fits in, can he play central striker?)
These are great signings

-Let Real take Morata back:
Not that I want him to leave, but the opportunity cost is too high.

-Sign a few cheap, depth, Italian options: De Sciglio/Darmian, Graziano Pelle (cheap, and effective), Mirante, Marrone, Ciro Immobile (home grown), Mattia Destro (thought of as high potential, and had an insane strike rate with Roma a couple of years ago)
Some of these names look ordinary, but these players are primarily depth, and some are homegrown.

-Retain: Cuadrado (use Asamoah/Licht deals as leverage)

- Make 1 big purchase to boost Juventus brand: James Rodriguez is the obvious candidate (alternatives are not nearly as marketable), while another is Lorenzo Insigne (who's agent made a comment on having other options today). Other options include Gotze, Isco, although I feel like he is a tad overrated.

-Consider Ibrahimovic on a free if he is willing to take a material paycut to win a UCL. Ibra has his problems but he would undoubtedly make us a lot more dangerous. I would not overpay him though.

Obviously you don't do all of these options - I do think the most important is adding a bonafide creative trequartista, followed by filling depth with Italian talent. Depth players from other countries are not necessary: Fill your depth domestically...
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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The problem with Asa is that people is talking still like if he was on form, when he is a has been since 2 seasons ago. And super injury prone on high wages on top of that. really, he is not worth the cost and risk and space anymore. Nostalgia aside, he should be sold.



Potentially, this midfield can be way better than our Vidal Pirlo Cheesio, because in that team Marchisio was not beasting, Pirlo was declining slowly but surely (he never was able to replicate his first season form) and the only real world class was VIdal, which on his prime he was the best in the world.

Now, if we are able to assemble the midfield we hope.... i think the ceiling will go way higher because we will have Pogba on his prime , Marchisio in his best role and a lot of very technical players running around them.

Im very positive that this new midfield, if they gel, will be something we havent seen before in a lot of years.
Thing is people talk about him being injury prone while he is not at all that. He had one massive injury and of course he's going to struggle when coming back mid season. Of course he'll have a few minor injuries without a decent preparation. If he still has those problems next year, only then we can truly judge that aspect.

Very much agree on the rest.

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right now, the difference is minimal if there is any, in favor of either one. Sturaro is 5 years younger too
Because again you're comparing a player who didn't have a decent preparation with one who did. Let's see what they both show next season, at whatever club that is.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Because again you're comparing a player who didn't have a decent preparation with one who did. Let's see what they both show next season, at whatever club that is.
:tup:

another thing, if we keep Sturaro for a few more years and we need to sell, we will be able to get a decent sum easily. cant say the same about Asa. there is no reason to keep him really
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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another thing, if we keep Sturaro for a few more years and we need to sell, we will be able to get a decent sum easily. cant say the same about Asa. there is no reason to keep him really
I agree on the financial side for sure. If someone offers a sum that equals the 18 mil we paid for Asamoah a few years back, it'd be very hard to resist even if it would hurt me to see him leave. The guy sacrificed himself at left back.

I can't see anyone bidding that for Sturaro and seeing as he's on lower wages it's the obvious choice to keep him idd. But still...
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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La Stampa: "Contatto Juve-Darmian: le possibilità che l'esterno arrivi a Torino sono concrete. L'ex granata può fare anche il centrale"

Our flanks would be amazing.
 

italiacalcio10

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Mar 3, 2014
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Or Alves doesn't come.

I'll go with yours. :D
Hmm, if we send Licht and Asamoah to Chelsea, maybe we can keep Cuadrado. I know its very wishful thinking.

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Also, unrelated:

Looks like Pelle could be sold for 6.3 million euro. I know I'm one of the only ones who feels this way, but selling Zaza for 30 million and picking up Pelle for 6.3 is good business. Pelle IMO would be a good back-up striker. He is capable but not amazing. That is only if the rumoured Zaza fees are correct. If we were getting offers for 20, I'd pass and keep Zaza.

That being said - this article headline is ridiculous: http://www.footballfancast.com/football-news/southampton-to-replace-essential-star-with-juventus-outcast
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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Yeh, he is done.

But theres no shame in that, he gave his all for us. Sadly, i allegri means to continue using him as a wingback, he has no business with us. As a RB yes, but if the offer is good we should sell because of his age and go for darmian as Alves brother in arms.
 
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