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duranfj

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Lets be patient and kind guys... For a lot of us yesterday statements were like a bullet in this morata-saga. I really want this guy stay here, over any other striker we could posibbly sign in the summer but It looks like it's not the case... So the meltdown is gonna come early this year
 

Orgut

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I dont feel Berardi will make it! I mean he`ll be a good player but nothing more than that Just like when we had Giovinco...
I do think we should pay up the 25M since he is young and talented +who knows maybe I`m wrong... at the worst case we could sell him for 20M...
 

Akshen

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I dont feel Berardi will make it! I mean he`ll be a good player but nothing more than that Just like when we had Giovinco...
I do think we should pay up the 25M since he is young and talented +who knows maybe I`m wrong... at the worst case we could sell him for 20M...
He might not be a world beater but as u said, for this price its our obligation to at least try him. I really hope he will turn to our very own version of Muller we need this italian identity as it is one of Juve's tradition. I also hate to see Azurri attack of all mediocore players, hope this guy can change it.
 
Jan 5, 2007
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let him come first then we will think about his failure and success lol

we dont know how he will perform IF he comes, i dont know the future but i cant stand the idea that people already betting on his failure.
 

Catenaccio

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Italian press is also talking about Gotze going back to Borussia Dortmund - potentially leaving space for Mkhitaryan to leave and Juve could then buy him. His market value would be EU30m ish I suspect.

So one Italian article was saying we are after Gomes AND and AM (such as Mkhitaryan).
 
Jan 5, 2007
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English?!

@pavluska
As far as i know HG rule include 8 players in 25 players squad.

4 who played from the age of 15 to 21 in italy.
4 who came from the club academy and played in the club or loaned from the age of 15 to 21.

I have no info if they must be italian national.

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Is CB really the position we need to strengthen?
If we are going to keep playing 352 then yes we need one and binatia is a good option.
 

Catenaccio

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@pavluska
As far as i know HG rule include 8 players in 25 players squad.

4 who played from the age of 15 to 21 in italy.
4 who came from the club academy and played in the club or loaned from the age of 15 to 21.

I have no info if they must be italian national.

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If we are going to keep playing 352 then yes we need one and binatia is a good option.
No problem with the first 4 - Bonucci, Barzagli, Buffon, Chiellini (for example) - all played in Italy from 15 to 21.
Only Marchisio qualifies in the next 4. This means that the A team would be 25-3 = 22. Last year would have been 23 as I think Pogba could have qualified for B list (B list are players under 21). So unless we have a player under the age of 21 by the start of the season, looks like the A team is restricted to 22 players.

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On the Benatia thing if true - it wouldn't exactly be unexpected. No idea as to the details but if it is a straight purchase, expect Coman to be involved in the deal. It could be a loan with option/obligation. Or could be a hybrid of both.
 
Jan 5, 2007
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3 primavera players will do and allow 25 player squad.

Pogba is not juve academy product.

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The changes, which take Italy from having no squad size rules to being in line with the standard used in UEFA competitions, limit Serie A clubs to 25 over-21 players. Of those, no more than 17 can be non "home grown" players, meaning players who spent at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21 as part of an Italian club, be it in their academy or first team squad, or even away on loan so long as an Italian club still holds the player's contract.

Adding a further layer of restriction is that, of the eight roster slots held for players who trained in Italy, four of those are reserved for "club trained" players, meaning players who spent at least three years in that younger age range with the club that currently holds their registration. While most Italian teams won't have any issue with the first home grown restriction, the club trained player requirement will likely trip up many clubs.

Players who are under-21's (not yet 21 at the start of the calendar year in which the season began) are unaffected by these changes and can be used freely.

Despite the difficulties many clubs will face in meeting these requirements, all 20 Serie A clubs have agreed to immediately restrict their squads to follow these rules*. The change was put in to place not just to bring Italian squad rules more in line with UEFA's, but also to help aid financial stability for clubs by reducing bloated squads while promoting the strengthening and better usage of Italian academies.

*UPDATE - An earlier released version of the FIGC's statement did not sufficiently clarify the starting date, and left an implication that the rule took effect immediately. It was later updated to reflect that the rule is effective as of next season.

While for now this change doesn't affect clubs in lower divisions, it seems likely that some form of restrictions will be put in place there eventually. Also apparently unaffected is the large matchday squad size in Serie A; while most top-division leagues and UEFA competitions have an 18-man matchday squad with the eleven starters and seven subs to pick from, Serie A allows coaches to name a 23-man matchday squad, greatly increasing their options off the bench.

The FIGC also enacted tighter constraints on the ability of Italian clubs to bring in players from outside the European Union. Previously, there were restrictions on acquiring non-EU citizens based on a club's position and how many non-EU players were already in the squad, but nothing else past that. Now, the FIGC will only allow academy-aged players to sign with Italian clubs if they've already established four years of residency in Italy.

They've also made it harder for clubs to replace a sold non-European citizen with another, adding a requirement that such "replacement" signings must have been signed to a professional contract for at least three years. That makes it functionally impossible for Italian clubs to sign up-and-coming stars in South America or Africa before they get more expensive, something that clubs who have had issues developing their own young talent have done for years.

These will be pretty big changes to how Italian clubs operate, especially in the transfer market. Seeing how the squad size restrictions play out with Italian clubs will be interesting to watch unfold, and tomorrow we'll be taking a look at how Serie A clubs could be affected by this new rule.
 
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