Endless Summer Mercato 2016 (91 Viewers)

[Seven]

Now you're just being preposterous for the sake of it.

But hey, let me do that too. I've looked up the Guardian's minute by minute coverage.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-5749f90ee4b05def80eb6f8f#liveblog-navigation

This is what they write a minute after Carvajal pulled up with an injury:

"53 min: Carrasco (who is playing on the left, Koke having moved inside) has given Atleti a certain amount of thrust. They’re all over Real now."

Now unless you're saying that Danilo was so bad that Carrasco managed to completely reinvigorate Atletico in 1 minute, I think you're going to have to give up now. Carvajal only played against Carrasco for 7 minutes, and what's worse, didn't detain him at all. And that was just 7 minutes!

Carrasco scored @ 79 minutes. I don't know why would Carrasco reinvigorate Athletico in 1 minute, maybe I am bad at algebra. What I am saying is that Atletico opened up Real, because their fresh Danilo couldn't keep up physically with Carrasco after 25 minutes on the pitch. Not to mention being flicked and tricked like it was men vs boys. I did not see that being done to Carvajal.

Yes. You are bad at algebra. Like I said in the above post, the Guardian explicitly stated in the 53rd minute of the game that Carrasco had completely reinvigorated Atletico. Carvajal was replaced in the 52nd. So unless Carrasco had one hell of a minute, Carvajal wasn't able to keep him under control either. My original point was that of course you wouldn't have seen it being done to Carvajal, because he barely played against Carrasco (remember: Carrasco played 7 minutes against Carvajal, 68 against Danilo - with enough luck Ronaldo doesn't touches the ball for 7 minutes and you'd be able to keep him out of the game for 7 minutes too). But now that I've done some more research, it appears that that's not even true. Carvajal was destroyed in those 7 minutes. In just 7 minutes. Could you imagine what would have happened if he had played a full game?

 

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[Mark]

Have Spain made the EURO roster yet? Will Isco be there?

 

[il brutto]

Have Spain made the EURO roster yet? Will Isco be there?

They've named 19 and Isco wasn't included in them but there are still four places up for grabs.

 

[s4tch]

I say 1 might be overestimated

yes, but as of now, i remain optimistic/naive about one of the midfielders.

our attack might be complete with berardi.

 

[Mark]

They've named 19 and Isco wasn't included in them but there are still four places up for grabs.

 

[memo]

Sergio Ramos and Juanfran are near certain to go, meaning only two of Saúl Ñiguez, Isco, Lucas Vazquez and Koke can go to France.

so i belive he is not going

 

[Osman]

They've named 19 and Isco wasn't included in them but there are still four places up for grabs.

The players not chosen yet amongst those 4 is so random, for example Ramos and Koke arent listed yet and they will defenitely be there. Juanfran isnt either and he is the 2nd RB (If Aspiculeta is only seen as LB), so essentially 3 of the 4 not mentionned yet should be super clear. It leaves likes of Saul to compete with Isco for the last spot.

 

[Mark]

Interesting.

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

Yes. You are bad at algebra. Like I said in the above post, the Guardian explicitly stated in the 53rd minute of the game that Carrasco had completely reinvigorated Atletico. Carvajal was replaced in the 52nd. So unless Carrasco had one hell of a minute, Carvajal wasn't able to keep him under control either. My original point was that of course you wouldn't have seen it being done to Carvajal, because he barely played against Carrasco (remember: Carrasco played 7 minutes against Carvajal, 68 against Danilo - with enough luck Ronaldo doesn't touches the ball for 7 minutes and you'd be able to keep him out of the game for 7 minutes too). But now that I've done some more research, it appears that that's not even true. Carvajal was destroyed in those 7 minutes. In just 7 minutes. Could you imagine what would have happened if he had played a full game?

Oh the Guardian explicitly stated, well others, including UEFA.com, do not. But shall we not believe our own eyes? Did you watch the game? And I did watch Zidane hoping that Carvajal stays on as long as possible,but maybe Osman didn't? Could I imagine him destroyed? No, but alas you have this wild imagination and are a fortune teller, so its hard to argue with this one.

 

[Osman]

Sergio Ramos and Juanfran are near certain to go, meaning only two of Saúl Ñiguez, Isco, Lucas Vazquez and Koke can go to France.

so i belive he is not going

Koke wiill go for sure, no way Vazquez is going lol. The last spot is between him and Saul, and no matter how hyped and good the latter has been, the advantage should be to Isco in being selected.

 

[zizinho]

They've named 19 and Isco wasn't included in them but there are still four places up for grabs.

who are the 19 names?

 

[Mark]

@Völler my questions have answers in them.

 

[memo]

Koke wiill go for sure, no way Vazquez is going lol. The last spot is between him and Saul, and no matter how hyped and good the latter has been, the advantage should be to Isco in being selected.

well
according to spanish press
isco and saul are the one that probably will not go
koke is almost sure, so is ramos for some reason lucas vasquez apparently will go, marca says that is because of the caracteristics and he gives something diferent
so yea theres a big chance isco will not go

 

[Seven]

Oh the Guardian explicitly stated, well others, including UEFA.com, do not. But shall we not believe our own eyes? Did you watch the game? And I did watch Zidane hoping that Carvajal stays on as long as possible,but maybe Osman didn't? Could I imagine him destroyed? No, but alas you have this wild imagination and are a fortune teller, so its hard to argue with this one.

I gave you so many chances, dude. I was so so patient. I'm heartbroken that you let it come to this. Welcome on the list.

 

[memo]

who are the 19 names?

 

[Völler]

Is Casillas still their first choice?

 

[Osman]

You're more guru than @Mark can ever be.

 

[Völler]

@Völler my questions have answers in them.

Interesting.

 

[Osman]

well
according to spanish press
isco and saul are the one that probably will not go
koke is almost sure, so is ramos for some reason lucas vasquez apparently will go, marca says that is because of the caracteristics and he gives something diferent
so yea theres a big chance isco will not go

Others is obvious, but Vazquez more likely then Isco and Saul is ridicolous, even if Vazquez is a nifty player thats kinda underrated. They already have Pedro and Nolito who can play wide, so Vazquez shouldnt be as much of a need even if he adds more option then centralized players like Isco and Saul.

 

[zizinho]

so Juanfran, Ramos + 2 between Koke, Isco, Saul, Vazquez and whoever else is there. Koke is sure to go, Vazquez is favorite imo because they are stacked in middle and a bit short on wingers/strikers