[EN] Premier League 2004/05 (8 Viewers)

juvelover

Senior Member
Jul 13, 2002
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beautifull match yesterday ,, henry was class but missed easy chance to secure a win ,, garaham paul sucked as usual , he shouldn't allowed henry to take that kick , and he didn't award clear penalty againest parker for flamini .
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
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well actually i think there was nothing wrong with the FK henry scored.sure,he violated a gentleman's agreement by doing that but it's all by the book.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
++ [ originally posted by juvelover ] ++
beautifull match yesterday ,, henry was class but missed easy chance to secure a win ,, garaham paul sucked as usual , he shouldn't allowed henry to take that kick , and he didn't award clear penalty againest parker for flamini .
this might interest you Juvelover:)
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Referee Graham Poll said he applied the laws of the game in allowing Arsenal striker Thierry Henry's free-kick in Sunday's 2-2 draw with Chelsea.
Keeper Petr Cech was organising his defensive wall when Henry's quick free-kick flew in, which angered Chelsea.

"The whistle doesn't need to be blown. I asked Henry 'do you want a wall?'. He said 'can I take it please?' He was very polite. I said 'yes'," said Poll.

"I deal with the laws of the game. I deal with fact."

Poll added: "I gave the signal for him to take it. That's what he did.

"The same thing happened when I refereed Chelsea against West Ham in an FA Cup replay two years ago - when Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink scored - and I don't remember them complaining about that."

Henry explained why he paused before striking the ball for the goal, which put Arsenal 2-1 ahead.


Henry told BBC Radio Five Live: "The ref asked me if I wanted 10 yards or if I wanted to take it straight away and I said that I wanted to take it straight away. He said to me, 'go'.

"It looks a bit strange because I took my time. I was waiting for Eidur Gudjohnsen to move and give me some space.

"At one point, he turned and that's when I tried it."

Former referees' chief Philip Don backed Poll's decision to allow the strike.

"The advantage should go to the non-offending team. On this occasion it was Arsenal," Don told BBC Radio Five Live.

"Referees have been told to ask the player 'do you want to take the quick free-kick?' or 'do you want me to get the wall back 9.15 metres?'

"If they say 'quick', the referee tends to move away and allow the kick."

Don was head of the referees for the Premier League and revealed all clubs were informed of free-kick options.

"We spoke to all the Premier League clubs as well as all the Football League clubs in the summer of 2003 explaining what the situation was," he added

"We gave them the option of either the quick free-kick or the 'ceremonial' free-kick. Players and clubs were aware of what referees were doing."
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
Well, it is perfectly legal how Henry conducted the free kick, but the goal was rather cheap. The goalkeepers are always expecting to the hear the whistle before the kick is taken, and this ruling might be a bit unfair for them.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Well, it is perfectly legal how Henry conducted the free kick, but the goal was rather cheap. The goalkeepers are always expecting to the hear the whistle before the kick is taken, and this ruling might be a bit unfair for them.
wouldnt "clever" describe the goal a bit better?:D
 

erado

Junior Member
Nov 2, 2004
343
yeah, the goal was cheap and disguested :yuck:


Poll cost us victory - Cech

'We knew that Henry sometimes tries to take these kicks quickly. We were warned about it and saw such situations on a video of Arsenal's Champions League tie against Panathinaikos.

'Three of our players therefore stood in front of the ball. When they were returning to the wall they asked Mr Poll if he was going to whistle.

'He said that he would. But then he did not! I am sure that, without this controversial decision, we would have won.' - From Soccernet

Fair enough if Mr Poll didnt mention anything, but if he told everyone to wait for the whistle, how can he let Henry take the quick freekick??

And Henry just shows what a cheater he was.. taking a quick freekick is absolutely fine, but taking one while Keeper is organising the wall just shows he got no sportsmanship cheap..... How can a keeper save that shot while he was organising the wall? To me, shooting the ball into the unguarded net is just like, continuing playing while opponent is injured on the pitch... well, both may not violate the laws of football but cant we have more sportsmanship on this one???
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
That is a very cheap way to score goals, and referees are obligated to fix this problem with sticking to one method: whistle before the kick is taken. No more cheap goals.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
That is a very cheap way to score goals, and referees are obligated to fix this problem with sticking to one method: whistle before the kick is taken. No more cheap goals.
I agree, I saw the game, and the ref appointed to his whistle, and then Gudjonson went away...........
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,244
++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
i'm sure you would have described it that way if it was Nedved\DP who did that;)
I have not seen such an incident in the Serie A, only in the EPL. Something should be done about that. I think that was the fourth time Henry pulled something like that.
 

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