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Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
Here are twenty things you didn’t know about the reclusive US billionaire Malcolm Glazer who is trying to buy Manchester United.

1. Loadsamoney. 75-year old Glazer is estimated by Forbes magazine to be the 244th richest person in the US Though his wealth is listed at around a billion, what the real figure is remains shrouded in secrecy.

2. Buccaneering. Glazer bought the struggling American football team the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1995 for $192m, after it had notched up a long strong of losses both financial and on the pitch. His first act was to fire the manager. In 2003, the Buccaneers won the Superbowl to crown their improved fortunes.

3. Manchester, prepare! Glazer goes for the jugular. When he offered to buy the Buccaneers, he promised the Tampa authorities he would go halves on a new stadium with them. After getting control, he backed out of the deal, and gave Tampa two years to build it themselves or he would move the team to a city that would. Tampa caved in, and city taxpayers are still paying a half cent sales tax to fund the stadium’s construction.

4. No slow coach. Though he wouldn’t buy the stadium, he has spent plenty on players. He even broke the record for poaching a coach, paying Oakland Raiders $8m for Jon Gruden. Gruden helped the Buccaneers to its Superbowl win in his first season.

5. Tough love. Glazer doesn’t just play hard in the business world. He even fought his five sisters through the courts over the contents of his mother Hannah’s will.

6. Bought on tick.Despite the name, Glazer didn’t begin his rags to riches saga installing windows. He took over his father’s watch-parts shop in Rochester, New York in 1943 at age 15, following the death of his father Abraham. At that time he had just $300 to his name. One of the few quotations attributed to this very private man was on his father’s death which he said was “probably the most tragic thing in my life. But it was good in one way. It made me a man”.

7. Miniature for Sport? The bespectacled Glazer is very short and sports a ginger beard. To the Buccaneers’ fans he is known as the leprechaun.

8. The Bush connection.Glazer owns a company, Zapata Corporation, that was started by the father of US president George W. Bush. While George H. W Bush began Zapata as an oil and gas outfit, Glazer sidetracked it into fish protein, Caribbean supermarkets and sausage skins. Yuck.

9. V-twin spin. Before his interest turned to the world’s richest soccer club, Glazer tried to buy other glamorous firms. In 1989 he tried to buy the ultra-cool motorcycle company Harley-Davidson.

10. Naff. But he also made an equally unsuccessful attempt to buy the company that makes Formica, the outdated 1950s-style table and worktop material in 1988.

11. My first train set. Glazer’s first attempt at a takeover was in 1984 when he tried to buy the bankrupt US Conrail system. He offered $7.6bn, though he only actually had $100m of his own. Attempt to raise the difference eventually failed.

12. Part of a US tradition. Malcolm Glazer’s family were orthodox Jewish immigrants from the Baltic republic of Lithuania. His father was said to be a deserter from the Russian Army before travelling to the US.

13. Shop till you drop. Glazer made his mega-bucks in banking, nursing homes and real estate, mainly in the Florida area. Allied Corporation, the family property firm, owns shopping centres in 15 US states.

14. Jet set commute. Glazer travels by private jet from his £16m Palm Beach home to Tampa for every home game of the Buccaneers.

15. Scoring boom. The Tampa stadium has a $3m replica pirate ship that fires its cannons every time the Buccaneers score.

16. All in the family. Glazer's two soccer-fanatic sons Avram and Joel are leading the bid. There is no history of their father having an interest in soccer.

17. Official investigation. The US Securities and Exchange Commission, the powerful watchdog that oversees Wall Street, is probing allegations that Glazer’s family artificially boosted the market values of two family-controlled companies which may have been used as collateral for bid finance

18. Dogged. Glazer was taken to court by tenants at one of the residential caravan parks that he owns in New York state after he started charging each household £2 a month per child and £3.50 per dog.

19. Rats. The Buccaneers travel 80 miles to a training ground because their existing Tampa training facilities, which Glazer has yet to renew despite promises, are infested with rats.

20. Corporate raider. Many of Glazer’s attempt to buy companies seem to have failed. However, buying the company approached may not have been the objective. By raising the share prices of the companies he approaches, he has often been able to offload his shares at a profit. If his record is anything to go by, this is what he may do at Man Utd.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
Tim Webber, a ManU fan sent this out to Goal.com

Chelsea are soon to be victims of a familiar theme to the Premiership. They are about to be struck down by a mystery and debilitating virus that amongst others has already afflicted Newcastle United and Arsenal.

Many had thought that a remedy had been discovered in varying London boroughs, but alas the relentless nature, and overpowering inevitability of things looks as though it is about to return.

Manchester United have smelt blood, they have stirred themselves over the last few months and are now hotly in pursuit of Chelsea. The title race is well and truly back on, and nobody can afford to overlook Ferguson’s men.

This particular tale certainly has a familiar theme. Manchester United have been written off before, time and time again. In fact it appears to be a favourite past time of a foolish number in the football establishment. The team that comes forward to challenge them become the media darlings of the day, we had Keegan’s Newcastle, Wenger’s, ahem.. unbeatables and now of course Chelsea.

All have strode to the top of the league, confidently, full of self-esteem and grasping an apparently unassailable lead. No-one can foresee a single defeat for them, let alone enough for anybody to close the gap. How many times will people say teams look unbeatable, look as though they won’t drop any points, are they aiming to look foolish? All it takes is one draw, an injured player and the whole thing can go look decidedly shaky.

Let’s face it Arsenal are gone, it is decidedly a two horse race now. But not from an even start. It is Manchester United chasing Chelsea and that’s what really makes it interesting. On an even keel, as at the start of the season United don’t seem to rouse themselves, it’s almost as though they like the hunt, the pursuit, the chase. All that is needed is a few good results and things start to snow-ball.

Chelsea are stuttering. Robben is injured, and while not as vital to a team as has been made out, his absence is important. Gone are the 4-0, 4-0, 4-1, scorelines of pre-Christmas, Chelsea have started trotting out the 1-0 wins again, and that is when Robben’s ability on the ball would have made the difference.

Mourinho didn’t want Duff near his side at the beginning of the season, he wanted two up with Cole fulfilling a Deco style role in behind. There have already been calls for a formation change. “Mr Mourinho, a phone call for you, it’s self-doubt.”

Wishful thinking some might say, but it isn’t. A lucky 1-0 against Blackburn, when Makelele should have been sent off (something he incidentally got away with following a kick on Ronaldo in the Carling Cup), followed by a 0-0 with the ‘massive’ Manchester City, when Fowler should clearly have scored with a header just before half time; all spells struggle for Chelsea.

United on the other hand are purring. Witness the ease with which Birmingham are beaten - they didn’t muster a shot on target. A win with 10 men at Anfield, without ever being threatened. And of course the win at Highbury.

The killer blow to Wenger and his men. 4-2, this wasn’t just a win this was a thrashing. Again down to ten, after Silvestre lost his remarkably big head, but the result was never in doubt. We went toe to toe with them and came out winners. Even John O’Shea scored.

If this all sounds a little too smug for words, then quite simply it’s because it is. United are winners, we know what winning is about and we are about to do it again. Ferguson has at last written off a whole portion of the squad and is playing those who deserve it, those who can do and will do the business. This is all with out Van Nistelrooy of course, so things can only get better.

We’ve been here we’ve done it. ’96, Cantona inspired, Newcastle cracked. ’03, things clicked into gear, Arsenal crumbled. Chelsea will do the same. Their demise will not be on the same scale as others, and I actually think that they’ll put up more of a fight. It will be a real battle. The key weeks are in April, when Chelsea travel to Old Trafford, and host Arsenal at Stamford Bridge, if they took 6 points there they would win it. But they won’t.

The nature of the leader-chaser scenario is what adds to the excitement. Once the lead begins to fall away it is almost inevitable. You know it is happening, you peddle the excuses to friends and colleagues but there is no getting away from it. We have been there too, Leeds ’92, and Arsenal ’98. It’s horrible. So to Chelsea: welcome to hell. You’re going to have to wait even longer for that first title for 50 odd years.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
Tim Webber, a ManU fan sent this out to Goal.com

Chelsea are soon to be victims of a familiar theme to the Premiership. They are about to be struck down by a mystery and debilitating virus that amongst others has already afflicted Newcastle United and Arsenal.

Many had thought that a remedy had been discovered in varying London boroughs, but alas the relentless nature, and overpowering inevitability of things looks as though it is about to return.

Manchester United have smelt blood, they have stirred themselves over the last few months and are now hotly in pursuit of Chelsea. The title race is well and truly back on, and nobody can afford to overlook Ferguson’s men.

This particular tale certainly has a familiar theme. Manchester United have been written off before, time and time again. In fact it appears to be a favourite past time of a foolish number in the football establishment. The team that comes forward to challenge them become the media darlings of the day, we had Keegan’s Newcastle, Wenger’s, ahem.. unbeatables and now of course Chelsea.

All have strode to the top of the league, confidently, full of self-esteem and grasping an apparently unassailable lead. No-one can foresee a single defeat for them, let alone enough for anybody to close the gap. How many times will people say teams look unbeatable, look as though they won’t drop any points, are they aiming to look foolish? All it takes is one draw, an injured player and the whole thing can go look decidedly shaky.

Let’s face it Arsenal are gone, it is decidedly a two horse race now. But not from an even start. It is Manchester United chasing Chelsea and that’s what really makes it interesting. On an even keel, as at the start of the season United don’t seem to rouse themselves, it’s almost as though they like the hunt, the pursuit, the chase. All that is needed is a few good results and things start to snow-ball.

Chelsea are stuttering. Robben is injured, and while not as vital to a team as has been made out, his absence is important. Gone are the 4-0, 4-0, 4-1, scorelines of pre-Christmas, Chelsea have started trotting out the 1-0 wins again, and that is when Robben’s ability on the ball would have made the difference.

Mourinho didn’t want Duff near his side at the beginning of the season, he wanted two up with Cole fulfilling a Deco style role in behind. There have already been calls for a formation change. “Mr Mourinho, a phone call for you, it’s self-doubt.”

Wishful thinking some might say, but it isn’t. A lucky 1-0 against Blackburn, when Makelele should have been sent off (something he incidentally got away with following a kick on Ronaldo in the Carling Cup), followed by a 0-0 with the ‘massive’ Manchester City, when Fowler should clearly have scored with a header just before half time; all spells struggle for Chelsea.

United on the other hand are purring. Witness the ease with which Birmingham are beaten - they didn’t muster a shot on target. A win with 10 men at Anfield, without ever being threatened. And of course the win at Highbury.

The killer blow to Wenger and his men. 4-2, this wasn’t just a win this was a thrashing. Again down to ten, after Silvestre lost his remarkably big head, but the result was never in doubt. We went toe to toe with them and came out winners. Even John O’Shea scored.

If this all sounds a little too smug for words, then quite simply it’s because it is. United are winners, we know what winning is about and we are about to do it again. Ferguson has at last written off a whole portion of the squad and is playing those who deserve it, those who can do and will do the business. This is all with out Van Nistelrooy of course, so things can only get better.

We’ve been here we’ve done it. ’96, Cantona inspired, Newcastle cracked. ’03, things clicked into gear, Arsenal crumbled. Chelsea will do the same. Their demise will not be on the same scale as others, and I actually think that they’ll put up more of a fight. It will be a real battle. The key weeks are in April, when Chelsea travel to Old Trafford, and host Arsenal at Stamford Bridge, if they took 6 points there they would win it. But they won’t.

The nature of the leader-chaser scenario is what adds to the excitement. Once the lead begins to fall away it is almost inevitable. You know it is happening, you peddle the excuses to friends and colleagues but there is no getting away from it. We have been there too, Leeds ’92, and Arsenal ’98. It’s horrible. So to Chelsea: welcome to hell. You’re going to have to wait even longer for that first title for 50 odd years.
Talk about self congratulatory. Of course he has a point in saying that all it takes is an injury, a bad run of results, bad luck etc. But that's just as true for ManU as it is for Chelsea so there's no advantage to gain from it.
 

juvelover

Senior Member
Jul 13, 2002
1,026
what i see ?

chelsea won the title already , niether Arsenal or Man u can catch them ,, i can't see that man u or Arsenal reaching 85 points and i belive chelsea will get 90
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson believes Premiership table-toppers Chelsea have been enjoying the rub of the green.
"Chelsea are still getting the breaks. I couldn’t believe James Beattie’s sending off in their game at Everton," he said.

"It was a real kick in the teeth for us because Everton was a difficult game."

He continued: "We keep saying that they are not playing well but they keep getting results.

"We’re doing nothing wrong. We’re showing championship form and all we can do is keep on winning and hope something happens. We’re still hopeful they will slip up."
 

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