Emre Can - CM/DM - Liverpool (35 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Pretty ridiculous post. Unfortunately most fans think like this nowadays. More CL's=bigger club apparently

I can accept Man United being bigger than Juventus but not Liverpool. They've been a mid-range team for almost 3 decades now.

Juventus is by far the most supported club in Italy unlike Liverpool in England.

pool won the CL little over 10 seasons ago

 

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[Xperd]

pool won the CL little over 10 seasons ago

So that means they're bigger ?

They've not won the league in 28 years.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Juventus is by far the most supported club in Italy unlike Liverpool in England.

I was looking mainly at achievements with a small wwightage on following. My list is based off club achievements which is the most objective. If you talk about global following, Man U fans have an argument that they're greater than Real Madrid

 

[Xperd]

I agree with you if you're talking about adjusting for recency. Eg. Only UCL era. However, if you look at whole history with equal weight, have to say Liverpool have a decent ammout of League titles and Europa league/Uefa Cups too.

Nearly 30 years without being the best in your league is a substantial % of your club's history. We're talking about an era where brand value means everything, even more so than 'historical' achievements. Granted Pool still have a fairly steady brand mainly because of the PL but i doubt they'll ever return to elite level and establish themselves like Man United. They are a very well supported 'mid-range' English club with a great history(ofcourse) in my opinion

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I was looking mainly at achievements with a small wwightage on following. My list is based off club achievements which is the most objective. If you talk about global following, Man U fans have an argument that they're greater than Real Madrid

You need to consider everything in these sorta discussions. Fan support, brand, trophies etc. Real Madrid trump Man United easily if you consider all those factors equally.

 

[TheLaz]

Liverpool a bigger club than Juve

 

[Xperd]

medical visits in Turin fixed after Kiev

 

[BayernFan]

I think you can argue that over their whole history that they are ahead of us but no way are they ahead of Bayern.

I think the club greatness list (top10) probably goes something like this IMO (trying to consider full history)

Real
Bayern/Milan
Barca/Liverpool
Juventus/Ajax
Man U/Merda/Benfica

I wouldnt say Liverpool is a bigger club than Juve, maybe if you count international titles, but them not winning their League for 28 years sums them up pretty much imo.

But yes I agree with you about Bayern being just after Real, but Real are clearly ahead of everybody else

 

[Xperd]

According to Tuttosport, Emre Can will earn €7m/yr + bonus. He will be in Turin after the CL final to undergo medical tests. Juve doctors already visited him a few weeks ago to evaluate his back problems.

The hell man, the wage figures keep rising

Think it must be 7 including bonuses. And that's still huge if true imo.

 

[DAiDEViL]

According to Tuttosport, Emre Can will earn €7m/yr + bonus. He will be in Turin after the CL final to undergo medical tests. Juve doctors already visited him a few weeks ago to evaluate his back problems.

The hell man, the wage figures keep rising

Think it must be 7 including bonuses. And that's still huge if true imo.

He's a freebie you know, they always get higher wages.

Perfectly normal to have a player like Emre Can as one of your top earners at a Top Club like Juventus.

 

[Wittl]

According to Tuttosport, Emre Can will earn €7m/yr + bonus. He will be in Turin after the CL final to undergo medical tests. Juve doctors already visited him a few weeks ago to evaluate his back problems.

The hell man, the wage figures keep rising

Think it must be 7 including bonuses. And that's still huge if true imo.

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He's a freebie you know, they always get higher wages.

Perfectly normal to have a player like Emre Can as one of your top earners at a Top Club like Juventus.

 

[Robee]

According to Tuttosport, Emre Can will earn €7m/yr + bonus. He will be in Turin after the CL final to undergo medical tests. Juve doctors already visited him a few weeks ago to evaluate his back problems.

The hell man, the wage figures keep rising

Think it must be 7 including bonuses. And that's still huge if true imo.

7 including which bonuses? That's pure speculation... But I've seen some huge CL bonuses mentioned here and there before. If that's included he can have 20 mil for all I care.

 

[s4tch]

He's a freebie you know, they always get higher wages.

Perfectly normal to have a player like Emre Can as one of your top earners at a Top Club like Juventus.

yes, just remember llorente's wages back then. with 3,5m net, he became our 3rd highest earning player after tevez (4,5) and buffon (4).

also, two years after, we couldn't sell him because of that.

 

[The Quazis]

yes, just remember llorente's wages back then. with 3,5m net, he became our 3rd highest earning player after tevez (4,5) and buffon (4).

also, two years after, we couldn't sell him because of that.

Get for free and sell with a profit... are you jew or sth?

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[Hust]

Per today's edition of Tuttosport he's expected to sign after the CL final @Hustini

I need to go back and find all the different articles that say the same thing.


You've been around long enough...this might be the new "on/next Monday" theme we like to jokingly say on Tuz.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Nearly 30 years without being the best in your league is a substantial % of your club's history. We're talking about an era where brand value means everything, even more so than 'historical' achievements. Granted Pool still have a fairly steady brand mainly because of the PL but i doubt they'll ever return to elite level and establish themselves like Man United. They are a very well supported 'mid-range' English club with a great history(ofcourse) in my opinion

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You need to consider everything in these sorta discussions. Fan support, brand, trophies etc. Real Madrid trump Man United easily if you consider all those factors equally.

Oh, okay. Fair enough, if you want to weigh brand, fans, impact, etc more heavily, I think this would be my ranking

Real
Bayern
Barcelona/Milan
Manchester United/Juventus
Liverpool
Ajax
Benfica/Merda

 

[Enron]

The article doesn't say Juventus aren't a big club. In fact, Aldo says they're huge. Then he says Liverpool have more CL titles which is true and about all you can say about the matter.

So chill out, no manhood is in question.

 

[Elvin]

I wouldnt say Liverpool is a bigger club than Juve, maybe if you count international titles, but them not winning their League for 28 years sums them up pretty much imo.

But yes I agree with you about Bayern being just after Real, but Real are clearly ahead of everybody else

Sadly.
And reason why I kinda want Liverpool to win -- the more saturated the trophies the better.

 

[Hust]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5761369/Emre-set-Juventus-medical-week.html

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Comments section of the article:

Why would you want to leave premier league for a farmers league?

 

[Elvin]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5761369/Emre-set-Juventus-medical-week.html

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Comments section of the article:

I'd love to see Leicester win farmers league.

 

[lgorTudor]

@lgorTudor

Every manager to pay Emre Can even half that amount needs to be euthanized