Eljero Elia (11 Viewers)

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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Everyone has bad days and he probably just had one and because everyone was watching him like a hawk and he hasnt had other games to prove himself its too easy to just say he is a shit player. Im shocked people are judging him from this.
 

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Well, Lets say elia's bad luck is the formations conte turns out to pick (4-3-3 and 3-5-2 instead of 4-2-4)

so he cant add much here


but also, i think he doesnt suit wel in an organised team, rather free roaming like spain
 
Apr 15, 2006
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True, he certainly lacks it and Conte could do better in showing more confidence in him. But we don't know the full story, if he is showing the same stuff in training as on the pitch, it's hard to show confidence in him. And we didin't really have a lot of matches where we could just bring him on let him play, since most of our games were close games, differences in one goal only.

The borriello thing I can't understand at all. He shouldn't have been brought here he shouldn't have been given any time on the pitch, I hope he get shiped out of us asap.
No it's not. And Conte has demonstrated that it's not by showing his confidence in Borriello and Vucinic, who have been really bad this year.
But Elia apart from one pass in one game didn't show anything with the time he was given.
What one pass? The assist against Bologna in the Coppa? I guess you also forgot the assist to Del Piero which resulted in an offside goal.

Still, he's not a robot who can suddenly come on the pitch and light things up when he hasn't played a competitive game for 6 months. People really should consider that and limit their expectations accordingly.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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Vucinic is very understandable, Borrielo not at all.

But just think of the possibility of this is how he plays in training how then Conte is supposed to put him on? From all his time on the pitch apart from one or two moments he didn't show anything really positive, actually what he did is convinced me he is still not capable.

Yeah, he should have been given more time in the start of the season, in the start of coppa maybe, but now if this is what he get... I hope he doesn't get more chances and we somehow manage to keep Pepe injury free.
 

Kasaki

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Jun 1, 2010
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Gotta say I wasn't impressed.

But keep in mind it's his first time playing in quite a while. Anyone would look a bit out of it and short of confidence. In all, I was glad to see him get some time and I hope they continue to trust in him, they brought on Borriello at the end like he was supposed to score so if they have that much faith in Marco then Eljero better be the next balon d'or for Juve :lol:
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Gotta say I wasn't impressed.

But keep in mind it's his first time playing in quite a while. Anyone would look a bit out of it and short of confidence. In all, I was glad to see him get some time and I hope they continue to trust in him, they brought on Borriello at the end like he was supposed to score so if they have that much faith in Marco then Eljero better be the next balon d'or for Juve :lol:
difference is marco had a nice chance on net, elia did nothing to further his cause
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Vucinic is very understandable, Borrielo not at all.

But just think of the possibility of this is how he plays in training how then Conte is supposed to put him on? From all his time on the pitch apart from one or two moments he didn't show anything really positive, actually what he did is convinced me he is still not capable.

Yeah, he should have been given more time in the start of the season, in the start of coppa maybe, but now if this is what he get... I hope he doesn't get more chances and we somehow manage to keep Pepe injury free.
Why is Vucinic understandable? because they don't want a 15m flop on their hands after half a season of underperformance? Please... Oh, and about 60 mins of playing time(2 sub appearances) has CONVINCED you that he's not capable, which half a season of Vucinic's impotence, and you think it's understandable. Double standards?

If that is the possibility, then Conte is lying when he says that Elia is his Ace up his sleeve. If he cares about Juve and its players, then he'd treat all Juve players the same. He'd try to boost their confidence by giving them playing time even when they're at their worst. Borriello and Estigarribia are good examples of that. And Elia never got that show of faith from Conte. How can you possibly expect him to give a good performance?

Conte can still give him more playing time right now. The forward line really needs to be shaken up, and introducing a wild card like Elia would be welcomed. Pepe's fitness doesn't matter because he's a LW. He needs to start along with Pepe, not in place of him. a lineup of Elia-Matri-Pepe would breathe some fresh air into the squad and hopefully break down the defences that come up like Chievo and Genoa.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Boreillo had a nice chance? he fell over backwards with his leg in the air i would hardly call that a nice chance.
he didnt fall anywhere, that was an intended strike, it was awesome but it was a shot on goal

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He would've if the team focused their attack through Elia. But it was all about Vucinic, DP and PDC. Almost everything was coming from the left or the center.
once again what does that say about his teammates confidence or trust in him. not much
 
Apr 15, 2006
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once again what does that say about his teammates confidence or trust in him. not much
No. It says a lot about the team's adherence to Angelo's instructions. Elia was only put on there to balance the formation and fill in the numbers. He clearly wasn't there to influence the game. He wasn't put on for that. If he was, he'd play a bigger part in our attacks. That's why I'm saying we can't really blame him.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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It's not the first time I have seen Vuci, and I know what he is capable of. His problem is consitency not capability. If the team could finish better we would have trashed todays Vuci.

And in those few minutes I have seen Elia let me down, not on his technical ability, which he didn't showcase(how could he in such a small time) but his mental capabilities. Not to mention his tactical awareness, which he simply doesn't have.

Believe, me I would love if he turned out to be a real gem, but I so far I don't see it. And I'm all up for giving him more chances, he's young he will only improve, but I don't see anything special in him at the moment.

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Elia has an actual assist.....but wait....Marco hit the net!!!! FORZA MARCO!!!
Whos Marco?
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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No. It says a lot about the team's adherence to Angelo's instructions. Elia was only put on there to balance the formation and fill in the numbers. He clearly wasn't there to influence the game. He wasn't put on for that. If he was, he'd play a bigger part in our attacks. That's why I'm saying we can't really blame him.
what balance? he comes on everything shifted left and our pace and rhythmic flow slowed dramatically
 

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