Egypt's Parliamentary Elections (2 Viewers)

[Hist]

For the past couple of days, I have been drowning in misery largely due the events of our Parliamentary Elections. Elections here were never transparent in any sense before, but they were also never as bad as yesterday's.

Almost every district across the country had thugs ,hired and protected by the police, who attacked the voters and prevented them from voting. In Egypt, you need a voting card to have the right to vote and so what they did was prevent those with voting cards from going in (making them no shows), and do their votes for them in favor of the National Democratic party, the one that has been ruling us for over 30 years now.

Reports of people shot by live ammo, people who got ran over by Police "SWAT" vehicles, beaten by sticks, knives, everything you can possibly imagine. Video footage of mass violence, bribery and stuffed voting boxes that were full before the poll stations opened are all over the Internet. The most annoying part is that they let people film all this as a form of power display, sending a message to all egyptians saying "We fucked you again.. on camera and there is nothing you can do about it". Further, the motherfuckers of the NDP are celebrating their victory and labeling the process on TV as "an example of democracy and freedom for the whole world to look up to" which is fueling my anger.

They are smart, they are confusing public opinion by claiming that some of their supporters werent allowed to vote because of violence by the Muslim brotherhood members. As soon as the world media hears the term Muslim Brotherhood correlated with violence they sympathize with the NDP.

I am an apostate of Islam and by Islamic Law I should be killed for being one, yet I support the Muslim Brotherhood today... this says a lot.

The result of the elections are out: All seats are won by the NDP except for 3 (out of 400 and something). MB= Zero, Al Wafd party= Zero.

If you want a glimpse of what happened, check these videos out:
A file that documents the violations which took place during the Egyptian parliament elections in 2010.

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Video showing thugs using swords and knives to threaten voters

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Photo showing thugs running after voters

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Video: Voters are burning boxes filled with voting applications claiming that they were "forged" in Farscor

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Video: Voters are beaten up in Mahalla after protesting against the denial of their candidate to attend the votes count

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Video: Forging people votes in a polling station

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Photo: A Minister in the Egyptian cabinet who is a pariliment candidate is paying $2 bribes to voters

http://bit.ly/hKbzyh

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A police man tried preventing a judge from entering the polling station to hide fraud

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Thugs in Mena AlBasal in Alexandria terrorizing voters

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Government employee removing banners of oppositions and saying: It was not my call

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Police protecting an employee leaving with empty voting applications to be forged

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A Parliament candidate threatening voters with a sword outside a polling station

http://on.fb.me/hxsqRS 

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Video: Report by AlJazeera International showing a street war between thugs representing two NDP candidates. Please focus in the 8th second!

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Video: Thugs threatening voters and trying to beat them up using swords in Alexandria

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Video: A candidate and his supporters find their way by force to the polling stations to destroy the boxes claiming that they were filled with forged applications

http://on.fb.me/g1Vkri

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Video: A group of employees monitoring the elections are forging votes by filling applications in Belbees

http://on.fb.me/eBxuSm

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Video: Another group of employees that were supposed to monitor the elections are forging it

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Video: Voting applications on the floor after breaking one of the boxes

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Video: In Snoras, voters access polling stations and fill multiple applications while police is watching

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Video: Shooting live fire during the elections in Sohag

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Video: Thugs supervised by Police officers in Behira are terrorizing voters using sticks and soft arms.

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Video: Supporters of a candidate filling multiple applications and committing fraud in Amin ElKhouly

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News: A policeman arrested Walid ElShafei a judge to prevent him from monitoring the elections

http://on.fb.me/glXETH

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Video: A group of employees that are supposed to manage the elections process are forging it in Fayyoum

http://on.fb.me/fkNTuW

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Video: Policemen are firing with live arms and thugs using sticks to terrorize voters in the 2nd day before announcing the results in Abu Hommos

http://on.fb.me/ezR51a

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Video: Thugs and supporters of a parliament candidate outside the polling stations waiting for the results to be announced. They are holding swords and using live bullets to "celebrate" in Sammannoud

http://on.fb.me/g84UQv

 

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[ReBeL]

Horrible, but in the Western standards they were great elections as long as their bitch Mubarak is still controlling the situation.

 

[Hist]

Horrible, but in the Western standards they were great elections as long as their bitch Mubarak is still controlling the situation.

Its amazing (more like sad) how he can be so tough on us.. and a little bitch when talking to Israel. I did not compile that list by the way.. I copied it from the activists facebook group "We are all Khaled Said".

The world news are obsessed with wikileaks and the Korean situation at the moment... no one gives a flying fuck about us here.

The Human Rights watch and others have filed complaints and reports but there is not much that they can do anyway.

I am officially depressed. Watch the videos and I bet you'll be too. Its unbelievable.

 

[Naggar]

You didn't see it coming?

 

[Eddy]

Not surprising. Seriously.

 

[Hist]

You didn't see it coming?

I saw it coming just not as "in your face" kind of attitude. Safwat El Sharrif declared 3 months before the elections that the 88 seats the MB got last time will cease to exist next term. Amr Adeeb also said this will happen and it did.

I guess to know it and to see it are different things.
I dunno whats wrong me, I never used to care.... now its killing me and I am too much of a coward to do something other than whine.

 

[The Curr]

tl;dr

 

[Bisco]

You didn't see it coming?

yes and no to be honest, i have to go with hist on this one. i knew it would be messed up but not to this degree!!! not with all the media covering the elections at least. by media u know i dont mean the mickey mouse tv stations owned by the government. did any one here see the commercial for the national democratic party?!?!?! i mean for the love of god they take us for donkeys honestly!!! its like they are talking about a totally different shit hole, with a totally different set of sheep they are herding! my favourite part: whats wrong if u start yr life with 300 pounds?!?!?! u will soon make more and get a lada!!!


hist or naggar do u know guys who joined up in the Ndp?!?!?! i swear they glory hunt about it as if its barshitlona or real madrid!!!! sad beyond words can ever describe.

 

[Bisco]

I saw it coming just not as "in your face" kind of attitude. Safwat El Sharrif declared 3 months before the elections that the 88 seats the MB got last time will cease to exist next term. Amr Adeeb also said this will happen and it did.

I guess to know it and to see it are different things.
I dunno whats wrong me, I never used to care.... now its killing me and I am too much of a coward to do something other than whine.

nah u r not a coward, they know the egyptain population like the back of there hand. the needs and wants of people who are like our selves i,e belong to the educated precentage is totally different than that of the majority of egyptains i,e people who r leading very hard lives and with minimum or no education!! also u tell me if its worth getting yr self into shit for people who are perfectly fine with everything going on. the system works hist!! i advice u to just sit in the under ground or while walking around to observe the fool proof system they have implemented in this country. a few examples:

1-the gap between social classes is ever increasing, now the people who have it harder than others dont look at the government they take the hate out on the higher social classes. when in fact its the government that has done this precisely.

2- the way an average egyptain lives there are a million obstacles that prevent him for using his brain to even think let a lone fantasize about a better tomorrow. u have debts to pay, u have kids to feed, so the thought of being an activist is immediately thrown out of the window.

3- even if u werre single and educated, there is nothing u can do bec no one will ever support u. people depend on the government waaaaaaaaay too much.


finally u will never find a simple minded egyptain who hates complaining and when asked to give his honest opinion nothing kills me more than the word, thank god we r content when in reality we r being run over on daily basis.

 

[ReBeL]

U.S is responsible for Egypt 's election joke

There is no doubt that the United States is at least morally responsible for the scandalous election joke which took place in Egypt on 28 November. The brazen falsification of the Egyptian people's will would not have occurred had it been for America's unethical embrace of Mubarak's regime.

With a turnout not exceeding 10-15% of eligible voters, the elections have been described as "brashly fraudulent" and "probably the most fraudulent in Egypt's history."

The elections were marred not by a small number of irregularities. On the contrary, the regime has employed every conceivable illegal, even criminal, method to intimidate and scare away voters suspected of intending to vote for the opposition, especially the Muslim brotherhood.

According to independent sources the regime resorted to widespread fraud, barring independent monitors from polling stations, ballot-box stuffing and vote buying to ensure victory for pro-regime candidates.

In some areas, government candidates were seen passing cash and food to voters near polling stations.

Moreover, the voting on Sunday saw more than sporadic violence. Pro-regime baltagiya or gangs of intimidating young men were seen hanging around polling stations to scare off brotherhood supporters. One woman was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that "people are scared to leave their homes. Everyone is afraid of the thugs."

Another Cairo man said "it would be an insult to language to call what is happening elections."

According to a coalition of local and international human rights observers, the elections "lacked any transparency and were marred by widespread fraud."

In addition to the atmosphere of fear and terror fostered by the security forces and the regime's civilian thugs, independent monitors from human right groups were barred entry. Some were arrested.

One human rights monitor, who had obtained accreditation from the election commission, was quoted as saying that "the security is running the show.

In fact, one could go on and on and one, describing the dirty game of raping the collective will of 80 million Egyptians who tried but failed to restore their dignity and freedom, usurped by an autocratic and corrupt regime.

In his landmark speech in Cairo on 4 June, 2009, President Obama undertook to repair the troubled relations between the United States and the Muslim world. He said "I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect."

The American president made numerous other remarks which promised good will toward Muslims in general. He also invoked the spirit of democracy, saying people everywhere should be able to have a say in how they are governed.

"But I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere."

In truth, the Egyptian regime wouldn't have reached this level of depravity, corruption, tyranny and repression were it not for U.S. support, acquiescence and silence.

U.S. officials often claim they are encouraging despotic governments in the Arab world to initiate democratic reforms and respect human rights and civil liberties. However, everyone, including the repressive regimes themselves, knows well that the U.S. doesn't really mean it and that all the reluctant and half-hearted public statements about democracy and human rights in countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the rest of America's puppet regimes in the Arab-Muslim region are only meant to mislead and deceive the masses.

One actually wouldn't indulge in far-fetched prognostication if one presumed that the U.S. itself privately asks these repressive regimes not to take its human rights-related criticisms too seriously since these criticisms were meant only for propagandistic reasons.

In the final analysis, the U.S. has never ever demonstrated a real, absolute and consistent commitment to democracy and human rights anywhere in the world. This ugly portrait of America's moral duplicity is illustrated by the long standing relations between the big empire and a long list of tyrants, including filthy tyrants, around the world. The list is too long to confine to a few lines.

The American-funded and American-backed tyranny in Egypt is very much reminiscent to US backing of the Shah's regime in Iran prior to the Islamic revolution in 1978. The US gave the Shah all sorts of state-of-the-art weapons, hoping to maintain and perpetuate his grip on power. The notorious Savak was given a free rein to kill, torture, and rape Iranians while the regime made sure to suppress every gesture of public dissent.

Even as the Shah's regime was showing signs of morbidity and fatigue, President Carter continued to describe the shah's Iran as "an Island of stability in one of the more troubled areas of the world."

We know the rest of the story.

To be sure, today's Mubarak's Egypt is not exactly a carbon copy of the Shah- era Iran. But the similarities are striking. Today, in Egypt as was then in Iran, repression is rife, corruption is rampant, poverty is shocking, and political repression is prevalent.

There is so much frozen rage and too much police state. People are routinely arrested, mistreated and even tortured for merely expressing their thoughts. The regime itself is increasingly insecure and it often tries to make up for this insecurity by stepping up repression of political activism or anyone deemed a threat to the regime.

An in the midst of this lugubrious atmosphere, President Mubarak is in the process of grooming his son, Gamal, to succeed him as Egypt, mainly thanks to Mubarak's absolute autocracy, has been effectively transformed into a republic in name but a kingdom in reality. It is a republic kingdom!

May God shield Egypt from the evils of its enemies, internal and external. Amen.

By Khalid Amayreh

 

[Bjerknes]

There is no "God", and if you want to change what happens, do something about it. Protest peacefully. It's not "America", but rather a few individuals that don't care about America whatsoever. Make a distinction between government and people, Khalid Sheik Cocksucker.

 

[Naggar]

You guys, Hist and Ahmed, I agree with both of you actually, we saw it coming but not that much in your face kinda thing..
the only positive thing I've seen is that 'some' people are starting to care about the country, the likes of you two.. at least you know what's going on and how wrong it is :S others are either careless or they just joined the cheating team

it's unbelievable, and even if I had the chance I can't just leave the country.. but it's looking hopeless for an individual and for the whole nation

USA is partly responsible but can't put the blame on it, first it's on us; the useless cowards who live to please the pharaoh
Nasser, being a dectator who made himself president with no right, would never take it this far, I mean even when he made himself win the elections with 99.9%, people wanted him and he was doing it for the good of the country, and if any of you disagrees that it was 'good' I'd say at least his intentions were great and he accomplished a lot
I can't believe what we came into, and the future is looking only darker

 

[Naggar]

finally u will never find a simple minded egyptain who hates complaining and when asked to give his honest opinion nothing kills me more than the word, thank god we r content when in reality we r being run over on daily basis.

Kills me too.

how people won't understand the HUGE difference between satisfaction and cowardliness.. ambition and greed

 

[Hist]

Now El Wafd and MB decide to not participate in the replay.... Where were they the fucking first time!!!! They did not listen to Baradie and they gave these elections Shar3eyya. The "amateur" of politics was right all along.. he told them it will be the worst election ever and El Wafd said no.. Mubarak promised... fucking idiots.. they gave the NDP what they wanted


We are all

 

[jukazem]

Déjà vu! This time it's in my country of birth. Not sure if it's worse here but I personally was unable to cast my stamped ballot paper in the box because I was accompanied in the booth by a ruling party agent and I didn't vote as he wished. I never disclosed my political affiliations so I was able to go further than all known opposition party voters, all of whom weren't even able to enter the polling centre, but I won't be going to vote in this country again as I don't think they will let me off a 2nd time. For me democracy is dead here, but fortunately I can hope for an immigration unlike most others.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Déjà vu! This time it's in my country of birth. Not sure if it's worse here but I personally was unable to cast my stamped ballot paper in the box because I was accompanied in the booth by a ruling party agent and I didn't vote as he wished. I never disclosed my political affiliations so I was able to go further than all known opposition party voters, all of whom weren't even able to enter the polling centre, but I won't be going to vote in this country again as I don't think they will let me off a 2nd time. For me democracy is dead here, but fortunately I can hope for an immigration unlike most others.

So, Egypt now is like 1920's Single Party rule in Turkey. It is only natural, both regimes established by same group of people. But hey cheer up, in kemalist regime there was no opposition party.

 

[jukazem]

So, Egypt now is like 1920's Single Party rule in Turkey. It is only natural, both regimes established by same group of people. But hey cheer up, in kemalist regime there was no opposition party.

It's not like Turkey imo. The single party rule have a huge support, I have seen my friends and fam who support the ruling regime. I think Egypt and my country of birth are more similar in terms of the political scenario, demographics, support of neighbours, etc... we were a few years behind but without a history of Pharaohs and the pyramids.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Déjà vu! This time it's in my country of birth. Not sure if it's worse here but I personally was unable to cast my stamped ballot paper in the box because I was accompanied in the booth by a ruling party agent and I didn't vote as he wished. I never disclosed my political affiliations so I was able to go further than all known opposition party voters, all of whom weren't even able to enter the polling centre, but I won't be going to vote in this country again as I don't think they will let me off a 2nd time. For me democracy is dead here, but fortunately I can hope for an immigration unlike most others.

I see your location is Dhaka in your profile. Does this post refer to Egypt as the thread suggests or it is Bangladesh?

 

[jukazem]

I see your location is Dhaka in your profile. Does this post refer to Egypt as the thread suggests or it is Bangladesh?

Not Egypt... I posted here because I am trying to be discrete, because Tuz opened by eyes to a lot of things and also influenced me, and I think the demographics, political and administrative systems are similar. Discrete because I am also scared and I would like to avoid trouble especially because I think I am very close to immigrating to a better country.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Not Egypt... I posted here because I am trying to be discrete, because Tuz opened by eyes to a lot of things and also influenced me, and I think the demographics, political and administrative systems are similar. Discrete because I am also scared and I would like to avoid trouble especially because I think I am very close to immigrating to a better country.

Good luck to you.

My friend's father was just arrested there without evidence and is awaiting "trial" with the International Crimes Tribunal for war crimes during the Liberation War. The man did nothing wrong, he wasn't involved at all in the conflict. They even lied about his age and whereabouts. Such a fucked up nation.