Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (45 Viewers)

[Turk_Bianconero]

ok watch this video carefully turk!! the same video you just posted now. watch it properly may god open yr blind eyes. innocent girl killed by MB milita's to add more victims so they get sympathy.

these mb terrorists you are defending day and night as if they r your parents or sth are being caught one after the other so post all the vids you want and keep thinking its a war against islam, azhar just annoucend mb are a terrorist group and dont represent islam. so tough luck

So MB militias killed their leader's daughter. Ok.

As for the second part; The mess Islam world in it right now, is not only a proud work of west world but villainy of some who claim to be Muslim.

and why don't you mention this? Good riddance?

At least 36 Islamists died in government custody on Sunday, in an incident that the Brotherhood described as "murder" and the authorities said was a thwarted jailbreak.

"The murders show the violations and abuses that political detainees who oppose the July 3 coup get subjected to," said the Brotherhood.

The Interior Ministry said 36 Brotherhood detainees had been suffocated by tear gas during an attempted prison breakout near Cairo. A legal source said 38 men had died from asphyxiation in the back of a crammed police van.

 

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[Bisco]

just watched general Sisi's word last night and i like what he said and i think whilst being on the emotional side but i am not surprised why he is very popular with egyptains.

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So MB militias killed their leader's daughter. Ok.

As for the second part; The mess Islam world in it right now, is not only a proud work of west world but villainy of some who claim to be Muslim.

and why don't you mention this? Good riddance?

At least 36 Islamists died in government custody on Sunday, in an incident that the Brotherhood described as "murder" and the authorities said was a thwarted jailbreak.

"The murders show the violations and abuses that political detainees who oppose the July 3 coup get subjected to," said the Brotherhood.

The Interior Ministry said 36 Brotherhood detainees had been suffocated by tear gas during an attempted prison breakout near Cairo. A legal source said 38 men had died from asphyxiation in the back of a crammed police van.

thats the answer you choose not to believe good for you. as for the daughter of the terrorist leader called beltagy its once again your choice believe what you want. your opinion has zero weight bec its not your country and honestly you can bark all night long you r not worth replying too bec you dont want to understand, or you understand but are being ignorant bec it touches a soft spot in you like mr 4 fingers erdogan.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Stop moaning. We both are part of a side, being Egyptian doesn't make your side righteous. At least i am taking sides with weak, the wronged. I am the one, my people getting killed yet i am not complaining about your bias half as much as you do.

This is a conflict between Muslims and old regime, anyone natural who has no bias against Islam can confirm it.

 

[Bisco]

Stop moaning. We both are part of a side, being Eyptian doesn't make your side righteous. I am the one, my people getting killed yet i am not complaining about your bias half as much as you do.

This is a conflict between Muslims and old regime, anyone natural who has no bias against Islam can confirm it.

ignored.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Egypt's Mubarak to be freed from jail, lawyer says

By Alistair Lyon and Asma Alsharif

CAIRO | Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:25am EDT

(Reuters) - Egypt's disgraced former President Hosni Mubarak will be released from jail soon, after prosecutors cleared him in a corruption case, his lawyer said on Monday, dropping a new bombshell on a nation in turmoil.

The most populous Arab country is already enduring the bloodiest internal conflict in its modern history as the army, which deposed President Mohamed Mursi on July 3 after huge protests against him, cracks down on his Muslim Brotherhood.

Mubarak, 85, was arrested after a popular uprising overthrew him on February 11, 2011 as unrest spread across the Arab world.

In scenes that mesmerized Arabs, the ex-strongman appeared in a court-room cage during his trial on charges that ranged from corruption to complicity in the murder of protesters.

More than a year on, the only legal grounds for Mubarak's continued detention rest on another corruption case which his lawyer, Fareed el-Deeb, said would be settled swiftly.

"All we have left is a simple administrative procedure that should take no more than 48 hours. He should be freed by the end of the week," Deeb told Reuters.

Without confirming that Mubarak would be freed, a judicial source said the former leader would spend another two weeks behind bars before judicial authorities made a final decision in the outstanding case against him.

Mubarak, along with his interior minister, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison last year for failing to stop the killing of protesters in the revolt that swept him from power.

He still faces a retrial in that case after appeals from the prosecution and defense, but this would not necessarily require him to stay in jail. Mubarak did not appear at a hearing in the case on Saturday. He was also absent from Monday's proceedings.

He is being held at Tora prison on the southern outskirts of Cairo, the same facility where senior Brotherhood members have been detained in a clampdown that followed Mursi's ouster.

Mubarak's eventual release could stir more political tension in Egypt, where at least 850 people, including 70 policemen and soldiers, have been killed since the army-backed government forcibly dispersed Brotherhood sit-ins in Cairo on Wednesday.

 

[Zé Tahir]

How did we end up in Sunni - Shia discussion? If they curse caliphs, that's their problem. That would make them sinners not disbelievers. Altered version of Kalma Shahadah? Never heard of it. There is only one Kalma Shahadah and it can't be altered.

It's not about Sunni - Shia. It's about you waking up to the reality that everyone has their own version of Islam and as long as it's not imposed on others we have to accept it. Also, due to globalization we have to take into account that non-Muslims live among Muslims and their rights have to be accepted as well.

You're right there is only one Kalma but your mind doesn't seem to be able to acknowledge people around you or you're just being willfully ignorant.

The declaration in its shortest form reads:

لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله (lā ʾilāha ʾillā l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh) (in Arabic)
There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God. (in English)

In Shia Islam, the creed is expanded with the addition of a phrase concerning Ali at the end, although it is not obligatory:
وعليٌ وليُّ الله (wa ʿAliyyun waliyyu l-Lāh) ["and Ali is the wali (friend; viceregent) of God"].[1]

-Wiki

 

[Bisco]

It's not about Sunni - Shia. It's about you waking up to the reality that everyone has their own version of Islam and as long as it's not imposed on others we have to accept it. Also, due to globalization we have to take into account that non-Muslims live among Muslims and their rights have to be accepted as well.

You're right there is only one Kalma but your mind doesn't seem to be able to acknowledge people around you or you're just being willfully ignorant.

Sadly nothing brought us back to the stone age other than caring what another person believes in. If only we left judgment to god and we just cared about our own personal faith, did work, and tried to be better people we would be so much better but sadly we care more about finding a reason to hate one another

 

[Zé Tahir]

Sadly nothing brought us back to the stone age other than caring what another person believes in. If only we lift judgment to god and we just cared about our own personal faith, did work, and tried to be better people we would be so much better but sadly we care more about finding a reason to hate one another

 

[swag]

Stop moaning. We both are part of a side, being Egyptian doesn't make your side righteous. At least i am taking sides with weak, the wronged. I am the one, my people getting killed yet i am not complaining about your bias half as much as you do.

This is a conflict between Muslims and old regime, anyone natural who has no bias against Islam can confirm it.

Let's remember that the first casualty of conflict is the truth.

From my feeble perspective, it seems more like a conflict between Muslims who want to enforce an antiquated society vs. Muslims who want a more progressive and pluralist society. Even if the former can gain a momentary foothold, they can only hold out for so long before global pressures doom it like wings on a Dodo bird.

Sadly nothing brought us back to the stone age other than caring what another person believes in. If only we left judgment to god and we just cared about our own personal faith, did work, and tried to be better people we would be so much better but sadly we care more about finding a reason to hate one another

Serious props on this point.

The world would have so much less death and bloodshed if people only tended to their own faiths instead of imposing their own beliefs on each other.

 

[Eddy]

Sadly nothing brought us back to the stone age other than caring what another person believes in. If only we left judgment to god and we just cared about our own personal faith, did work, and tried to be better people we would be so much better but sadly we care more about finding a reason to hate one another

Well said.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Sadly nothing brought us back to the stone age other than caring what another person believes in. If only we left judgment to god and we just cared about our own personal faith, did work, and tried to be better people we would be so much better but sadly we care more about finding a reason to hate one another

Sadly, people have always had this tendency to tell other people what to do & how they should live (and that's not only in terms of religion). Never mind that those who shout the loudest are usually the ones who don't stick to their "rules" in the first place.

 

[Bisco]

Egypt woke up today to some good news after last night's sadness. The supreme leader of the Muslim brother hood mohammed badie has been detained at last.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I read that earlier. Hope it brings the violence down somehow.

 

[Bisco]

I read that earlier. Hope it brings the violence down somehow.

Fingers crossed!!! But there are 5 other loose dogs that need to be detained but they will get there god willingly

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

It's not about Sunni - Shia. It's about you waking up to the reality that everyone has their own version of Islam and as long as it's not imposed on others we have to accept it. Also, due to globalization we have to take into account that non-Muslims live among Muslims and their rights have to be accepted as well.

You're right there is only one Kalma but your mind doesn't seem to be able to acknowledge people around you or you're just being willfully ignorant.

Is this what Satan whispering to you? ''There are many ways to follow, it's better not to follow.''

There is one Islam, one Quran, one Prophet who taught us how to live according to Quran. Everything other than these are irrevelant. If you're too confused, read the history, how people lived before you. Look at the Asr-ı Saadet, the golden age. There is no need to rediscover America.

Ali as a sahabah, cousin and son-in-law of Prophet and caliph is most valuable to us, Muslims. But putting him in a different place, like same place with Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is something only kuffar would do. Ali would be the first one to spit in their faces in day of judgment.

Conflict between Sunni and Shia is mostly political. There is nothing can't be solved. It's biggest fitna we're facing since ages. There is no difference in belief. You can't find many Shia to support that Kalma you mention.

Let's remember that the first casualty of conflict is the truth.

From my feeble perspective, it seems more like a conflict between Muslims who want to enforce an antiquated society vs. Muslims who want a more progressive and pluralist society. Even if the former can gain a momentary foothold, they can only hold out for so long before global pressures doom it like wings on a Dodo bird.

Conflict? More likely army slaughtering civilians. Is struggle between butcher and sheep a conflict?

Well said.

Sadly, people have always had this tendency to tell other people what to do & how they should live (and that's not only in terms of religion). Never mind that those who shout the loudest are usually the ones who don't stick to their "rules" in the first place.

No offence my friends but when you get so many from non-Muslims in an Islamic matter, this should you give a clue about being in wrong position. You talking about how Muslims should live is irrevelant as much as i am commenting on atom physics. When your criteria for religion is Christianity, you will always be wrong. Islam demands to be applied. It's not only for individuals but also regulates the social life and government.

Your concern about non-Muslims who are living in an Islamic state is absurd. If you only knew the Islamic view on non-Muslim citizens you would not mention it again. Check Caliph Omar's conquest of Jerusalem and compare it with what your crusaders did in Jerusalem and what happened to Muslims and Jews in Spain.

It was a dissolution of Caliphate by English started the suffering of this geography. They have considered it as a threat to their colonial rule. Then they followed another way to keep things as they are. They have realized they will be eventually kicked out by the people and what was the point of colonies when you had to spent most of the money to feed the armies you're using there? They have ended military expedition but left the people who align themselves to west in power. Sometimes it was a laicist, sometimes it was a socialist, nationalist, religious minority. Unending conflict between people and state has been granted, robbery continued. Today, there is no truly Islamic state here and people living in mud, suffering continuosly. Some are immoral enough to blame Islam for this situation even tough truth is much different.

Muslims want nothing but your respect to their right to choose whoever rule them. But no, it is too much to give these simpletons their freedom. They should be kept jailed, whenever an accident happens like happened in Algeria in 1991 like happened in Palestine with Hamas, like now happening in Egypt with Muslim Brotherhood they should be dealt with.

Those who have big stomach to swallow this villainy, what would you do if someone tells you who should be elected and if it's not the case you're getting killed in return?

 

[Nzoric]

Satan kept tickling my balls last night.

 

[Bisco]

Satan kept tickling my balls last night.

after reading the response for swags post and the ridiculous piece on being wrong when non Muslims agree with you or give you a thumbs up I have to say that's the best reply.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Turkey has evidence that Israel was behind Egypt coup: Erdoğan

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has claimed that Israel was behind the July 3 military coup in Egypt, adding that Ankara has evidence as to the country’s involvement in President Mohamed Morsi’s overthrow.

“Now the West starts to say democracy is not the ballot box or not only the box but we know that the ballot box is the people’s will,” Erdoğan said Aug. 20 at an expanded meeting of the provincial chairs of his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP).

“This is what has been implemented in Egypt. Who is behind this? Israel. We have evidence,” the prime minister said, citing a meeting between an intellectual and the justice minister in France before the 2011 elections.

Erdoğan said the intellectual was Jewish. “'The Muslim Brotherhood will not be in power even if they win the elections. Because democracy is not the ballot box’: This is what he said at that time,” Erdoğan said.

August/20/2013

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...dogan.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52876&NewsCatID=338

 

[Bisco]

Oh yeah what's the Islamic view on non Muslims Turk? I must have missed that chapter or sth because last time I checked or at least my infidel parents taught me you treat people the way you want to be treated regardless of his or her religion. So clarify this for me may be I just miss understood your point.

 

[Bisco]

Turkey has evidence that Israel was behind Egypt coup: Erdoğan

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has claimed that Israel was behind the July 3 military coup in Egypt, adding that Ankara has evidence as to the country’s involvement in President Mohamed Morsi’s overthrow.

“Now the West starts to say democracy is not the ballot box or not only the box but we know that the ballot box is the people’s will,” Erdoğan said Aug. 20 at an expanded meeting of the provincial chairs of his ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP).

“This is what has been implemented in Egypt. Who is behind this? Israel. We have evidence,” the prime minister said, citing a meeting between an intellectual and the justice minister in France before the 2011 elections.

Erdoğan said the intellectual was Jewish. “‘The Muslim Brotherhood will not be in power even if they win the elections. Because democracy is not the ballot box’: This is what he said at that time,” Erdoğan said.

August/20/2013

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...dogan.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52876&NewsCatID=338

isreal loved the retard called morsy WAKE UP!!! he was better than Mubarak in this aspect

Everything is isreal why?? The Egyptian people did this not any one else accept this and move on. Erdogan is pretty stupid if he promotes this idea