Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (13 Viewers)

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Yep alot of criminals and looters BIG TIME fucking up neighbourhoods/suburbs that arent protected by the military. Got in touch with my relatives, and they said pretty much what I just saw on the news, their neighbourhood is preyed by armed looters on scooters, and the neighbourhood themselves have to go out and ward them off from their properties.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Yep alot of criminals and looters BIG TIME fucking up neighbourhoods/suburbs that arent protected by the military. Got in touch with my relatives, and they said pretty much what I just saw on the news, their neighbourhood is preyed by armed looters on scooters, and the neighbourhood themselves have to go out and ward them off from their properties.
Yeah. This is human behavior. There is always a criminal element in any society. The trouble is self-interested people always insert themselves into the situation for personal gain or destructive entertainment.
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    What about a country like Morocco? Could something like this happen there?
    It needs change badly as it has one of the highest percentages of poverty relatively to other Arab countries.

    But it is a police country and there is no freedom to make anything against the regime.

    I doubt there is any possibility of a movement there, but after what happened in Tunisia, everything is possible.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Oliver Miles: Egypt must find its own way without Western interference

    Don't believe anybody who tells you they know what's going to happen next in the Middle East. What we have seen in Tunisia and Egypt amounts to a revolutionary situation. Revolutions are unpredictable. It seems likely that the regimes which have existed for a generation are finished, though even that is not certain, still less what will take their place. There are also disturbances in Yemen and Jordan, and ripples or more in other countries too. But a revolution, unlike a coup d'état or a military takeover, takes a least a number of days to reach the critical point and that has not happened elsewhere yet.

    All these countries have serious problems. On the political side, populations are deprived of justice, fairness and freedom. There is no accountability. Bureaucracy and corruption make dealing with government at best a bad joke, at worst a nightmare. On the economic side, there is entrenched unemployment and underemployment; food prices are rising; physical resources such as fresh water are lacking. Worryingly, these are problems to which no one has easy answers. Many of these problems are shared but the impact varies from country to country. Some of the economic problems can be masked or even solved in those countries that have oil money.

    Despite its reputation for instability, the Middle East has seen decades of stagnation. In Britain or America, governments look tired after a longish spell in power and are replaced. In the Middle East there is no such mechanism. Some autocrats have exercised unbridled power for 30 or 40 years with no change. Thanks to the media we hear a lot from individuals on the street who want this stagnation to end. It is encouraging to hear many voices very like the voices of protest in our own society, and it is possible to hope that they are looking for objectives we recognise as desirable – freedom, democracy, justice.

    We have been conditioned to look at the Middle East through the prism of the global "war on terror". It is encouraging that the voices we are now hearing make that concept irrelevant. Voices of men and women, of Christians and Muslims; scarcely a sign of political extremism dressed up as Islam, as we have all been conditioned to expect.

    What should our governments be doing, Britain, America, the "West"? First, we should not delude ourselves that we can control events. Second, we should remind those in the region who do delude themselves that the responsibility for what happens belongs to them. Given the history of largely ineffectual interference in the Middle East by other countries including our own, it is not surprising that some Egyptian voices demand at one moment that we recognise their right to control their own fate, and at the next moment – for example – that we make their President resign. It is good to hear British ministers and the British ambassador sticking to the position that while we have strong views on the democratic values involved, we have neither the right nor the power to determine the outcome.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...way-without-western-interference-2198446.html
     
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    ReBeL

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    U.S. Embassy advises Americans in Egypt to consider leaving as soon as possible - AP
     
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    ReBeL

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    Breaking news: Tens of bodies are in all the road to Abu Zaabal prison, the most famous political prison.

    Some sources say that in another prison called Al-Qatta guards are shooting prisoners. The death toll in that prison alone is more than 100 killed, but this is yet to be confirmed.
     

    Gamaro

    The Arabian Knight
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    Breaking: Egyptian authorities decide to close Aljazeera offices in Egypt.
    REB,The Egyptians authority has just blocked Al Jazeera channel in Nilesat,now even we can't know what's going there exactly:(

    What a disgraceful act by Mubarak and his people.
     

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