Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (49 Viewers)

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Extremely proud of the Egyptian people, cant state that enough, very admirable for them to step up in unison. Hopefully it continues and with as little violence as possible.

Its been weird seeing trashed streets filled with insane amount of people marching, when I recall being on some of those streets in quite different scenery (the big market street).

Something odd going on with the phone landlines btw, not sure, I know they took down cell phone service and internet, but calling home phones of relatives/cousin of mine, and cant get hold of them at all (though small children and their mother, so not worried they were out on the streets). And my mother called other family we know over there, and some egyptian people answered the phone, bit weird stuff.
What's really needed is a rally around specific plans or policies.

In politics as in life, it's far easier to identify what you don't like than it is to do the hard work in figuring out what you want in its place.
 

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What's really needed is a rally around specific plans or policies.

In politics as in life, it's far easier to identify what you don't like than it is to do the hard work in figuring out what you want in its place.

yep thats not there and will not be there, its more of lets get rid of the establishment then we ll figure it out, very wrong
 
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    Who is next? From Facebook:

    Some Algerian activists invite people to take part in their own version of demonstrations on 4th of February
    Some Syrian activists specify the 5th of February for their demonstrations.
     

    Wings

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    The 2nd pic is just amazing. I hope the guys in the 4th & 6th pics made it out alive. What is it with dictators? How many people have to die before they leave? :( I hope Mubarak steps down before more bloodshed.
     

    Yamen

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    Who is next? From Facebook:

    Some Algerian activists invite people to take part in their own version of demonstrations on 4th of February
    Some Syrian activists specify the 5th of February for their demonstrations.
    The domino effect. I wonder what happened in Yemen though :D
     

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    Marches in Boston in support of Egyptian demonstrators...



    Hundreds gather in Cambridge and march to Boston in support of Egyptian protesters

    Posted by Janet Walsh January 29, 2011 02:58 PM


    Jonathan Wiggs/Globe Staff

    By Matt Byrne, Globe Correspondent

    Organized largely online, the protest drew about 200 people who brought signs, banners, and bull horns. Like the protests in Egypt, the messages were strongly against President Hosni Mubarak.

    The demonstration was peaceful as about a half dozen officers from Boston and Cambridge looked on. Horns from passing cars beeped in approval, with one driver attaching an Egyptian flag to his gold minivan.

    Many who gathered were Egyptian-American or of Egyptian descent, and they expressed dismay at the reports of chaos that have trickled out of the country, worrying for family members who are there.

    While some have begun to look toward the United States government for a response, other protesters were critical of this country's support of Mubarak.

    "There will be mistrust of anything that the American government does because they've been such strong supporters of Mubarak," said Liz Ismail, who marched with her husband, Massar. "I'm not sure the government here should get involved."

    One Egyptian-American, who asked that her name be withheld, said that middle-class anger has swelled with unemployment and inflation.

    "It's an important moment in the history of the country," said the woman, who stood with her husband and 5-month-old son. "The last election was such a sham.

    "You can't live a fairly decent life without being rich," she said.
     

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    Great pics. :tup:

    But they have to get more precise than "Freedom, Justice". You ask any corrupt Arab leader, and they will tell you that the people have plenty of freedom and justice already. :pado:

    Meanwhile, TotallyCoolPix.com better rethink their name or watermarking practice. There's nothing totally cool about dead bodies run over by tanks. Talk about poor taste.
     
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    Reuters has a Q&A on what might happen next:

    Will the appointment of a vice-president end the unrest?
    Mubarak's decision to pick Suleiman gave a clear indication that the Egyptian leader understands the magnitude of the social and political upheaval that has gripped his country.
    Five days of unrest have forced Mubarak to make the long-delayed move of picking a deputy, signalling that his days in power may be numbered and that he may not run in a presidential election scheduled for September.
    With protests keeping the momentum and his army and police failing to quell running battles in the streets, the pressure seems to have grown on the 82-old president from allies and aides to prepare for a transition.
    Mubarak's legitimacy has all but evaporated under the overwhelming unrest in which 74 people have been killed and more than 2,000 injured.
    It has also diminished the probability that he or his son Gamal, who has been lined up as a possible contender, would run in this year's presidential election.
    "Mubarak has been damaged. I can't see how this is not the beginning of the end of Mubarak's presidency," said Jon Alterman, Director of the Middle East Programme for the Center of International Studies.
    "It seems that his task now is to try and manage the transition past his leadership. I have a hard time believing that he will be the president in a year."
    So far protesters responded to the announcement by stepping up anti-government demonstrators.
    Witnesses reported seeing looters ransacking and setting public buildings on fire. Nothing less than Mubarak stepping down can quell the unrest, some said.
    "The story of Gamal and Mubarak is over. Now, the regime is looking for who will rescue it. Mubarak, Omar Suleiman and Ahmed Shafiq know each other on a personal level," said Safwat Zayat, a military analyst.
    "Their task in the coming months would be to ensure Mubarak's safety until the end of his reign. They will reorganise the regime's internal affairs."

    What might happen on the streets?
    The army has deployed tanks and troops alongside police forces but has so far refrained from using force.
    Security forces however have warned that they could resort to tougher measures to impose order.
    They said that those arrested carrying out acts of vandalism would be tried in military court.

    Is this the beginning of the end for Mubarak?
    The revolt is the most serious challenge to the Egyptian government since the 1952 coup that ended monarchy and inaugurated a procession of military strongmen.
    It has shaken the government to its core, sent shock waves across the Middle East and alarmed Western and regional allies.
    Mubarak's nomination of an influential military figure with strong diplomatic credentials as his possible successor speaks volumes about the authorities' resolve to ensure that power stays in the hands of military and security institutions.
    Mubarak also secured the much-needed support from the army.
    "Mubarak is gone, because of his illness, because of his age and because of what happened now in Egypt," said Bassma Kodmani, the head of Arab Reform initiative.
    "This man will be gone by September 2011. He is not an option and everyone knows that and his inner circle knows that.
    "Mubarak is buying time. He needs to buy time to provide the needed minimum stability and control of the country to allow for an orderly transition."

    What did he learn from Tunisia?
    Neither Mubarak nor his close aides, including Suleiman, want to see a Tunisia-style exit.
    When Tunisian President Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali appeared on television after weeks of rioting, those watching the address said fear appeared to be his dominant emotion.
    When Mubarak appeared on TV on Friday, the contrast could not be greater. His was a poised and confident performance. Yet, it did little to calm tens of thousands of protesters.
    Seeking to avoid appearing weak, Mubarak delivered a tough message and showed his resolve to stay in power.
    The message involved giving the military full control and acknowledging people's economic frustrations, as well as promises to help the poor and introduce political reform.
    "Ben Ali made concessions and a day later he was out of the country. He didn't want to make the same mistakes. The regime has broader support than Ben Ali had in the last days," said Alterman.
    "The military in Tunisia not only didn't defend the president but they helped push him out of the country. In Egypt, the military rather than push Mubarak is his next line of defence," he said.
    "The appointment of Omar Suleiman is intended to send a message that if Hosni Mubarak leaves, the regime remains in place. It is not intended to mollify (the protesters). It is intended to show resolve."
     
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    In Israel, where the Sabbath lasts through Saturday evening, there was no comment from top officials. But Benjamin Ben Eliezer, a member of the Knesset, Israel's parliament, told Israel's Channel 10 that he recently spoke with Mubarak, who told him that "this is not Beirut and not Tunis" and suggested that Egyptian authorities had prepared the army in advance.
    Ben Eliezer is known to be the Israeli politician with the best personal relationship with Mubarak.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/29/egypt.middle.east.reaction/index.html
     
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    AP and Al Jazeera report that 19 private jets carrying families of wealthy businessmen have left Cairo for Dubai.
     

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