Egypt Football Pitch Invasion Leaves Tens Dead (20 Viewers)

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ReBeL

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    From the previous match for Al-Ahly club where the Ultras were cheering "Down with the military regime". Just to make it clearer why Ultras were targeted by police and thugs yesterday


    X said:
    honestly rebel dont bring politics into this please
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    What?
     
    GordoDeCentral

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    "today's demonstration", i understand you have your theories about why this happened the fact remains it was a group of ultras attacking another. I think your theories are best left in teh political threads.
     
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    ReBeL

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    X said:
    "today's demonstration", i understand you have your theories about why this happened the fact remains it was a group of ultras attacking another. I think your theories are best left in teh political threads.
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    You know that there were no demonstrations since a relatively long time. Today's demonstrations were a reaction for what happened yesterday. It is not "my theories". It is a fact that there would not be any demonstration today if nothing happened yesterday at Port Said. And by the way, only the minority in Egypt thinks that what happened was that a "group of Ultras attacked another group".
     
    Fred

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    ReBeL said:
    You know that there were no demonstrations since a relatively long time. Today's demonstrations were a reaction for what happened yesterday. It is not "my theories". It is a fact that there would not be any demonstration today if nothing happened yesterday at Port Said. And by the way, only the minority in Egypt thinks that what happened was that a "group of Ultras attacked another group".
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    This is true. I'm not sure what to believe as we Arabs are always quick to resort to conspiracy theories, but truth be told every Egyptian i've talked to has told me that yesterday's events had nothing to do with football and everything to do with politics. In this case it is hard to talk about the events without bringing in the politics.
     
    Sheik Yerbouti

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    Fred said:
    This is true. I'm not sure what to believe as we Arabs are always quick to resort to conspiracy theories, but truth be told every Egyptian i've talked to has told me that yesterday's events had nothing to do with football and everything to do with politics. In this case it is hard to talk about the events without bringing in the politics.
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    It's important to identify who gains the most from the events succeeding the incident to see where the motive really lies. I don't believe that we live in a world where such things happen by chance. I feel there's always an invisible hand orchestrating these things for someone else's need.
     
    Fred

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    Sheik Yerbouti said:
    It's important to identify who gains the most from the events succeeding the incident to see where the motive really lies. I don't believe that we live in a world where such things happen by chance. I feel there's always an invisible hand orchestrating these things for someone else's need.
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    Especially in Egypt at a time like this. Also, the circumstances surrounding the whole event are very suspicious.
     
    Bisco

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    ReBeL said:
    Tomorrow has already started, Bisco. They are shooting at people now live in Mansour street.

    This evening, more than 350 people were injured during clashes with police near the Interior Ministry.
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    yup, they started from last night as marches started towards tahrir sq which is right next to the the mohammed mahmoud street that leads to the ministry of interior.i meant today i think people are determined to end this crap that started the day mubarak handed authority to the military council.

    Zé Tahir said:
    FIFA should ban Egypt. All aid should be cut to this regime. Bring as much ridicule to them as possible.
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    i agree with this, you know u would be amazed to know egypt does'nt need these aids!!! we have been taught that we need aids bec we are a broke nation but you would be shocked at how rich this country is.. yes there are a lot of poor people hell 60% is the poverty rate but dont be fooled bec the money is wired to other accounts and no one knows where these aids go too they come up with pretty much messed up excuses.

    X said:
    all football across the world should stop this weekend in mourning, this is beyond sad.
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    that would be an extremely humanly gesture, sadly a gesture some or a very limited few sports broadcasters in egypt have no idea about!! bec after all there sponorship deals will be massively effected.

    Fred said:
    This is true. I'm not sure what to believe as we Arabs are always quick to resort to conspiracy theories, but truth be told every Egyptian i've talked to has told me that yesterday's events had nothing to do with football and everything to do with politics. In this case it is hard to talk about the events without bringing in the politics.
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    well it does'nt take much to really know what happened fred, may be bec we arabs know how dirty they are. i live here and i hear about most of the events specially ones involving lack fo security in the same time i also witnessed how the military councilc an secure events such as the parliment elections!!! this is no coincidence and bec i'm not home at the moment i cant really explain in much detail but when i get home i will try to clear things out for everyone. this is no conspiracey theory to be honest bec i am not a huge fan of those but there are a lot of facts such as the fans of both teams were not throughly checked like in all matches even those of lower division!!! that day they were allowed to enter whether they had tickets or not. secondly the top heads of the police have no major control, in other words they need the approval of the scaf head who is in charge of the ministry of interior!! so this did not happen out of the blue. the gates were unlocked in front of every one on tv.

    i could'nt care less about the military council but the loss of life that happened is just too horrific to be honest. 74 people lost there lives and they r talking about compensation?? do u know how many times we were told the economy is in crisis??? yet they r willing to splash the cash to save there asses from being turned on. i guess its seriously too late now bec people are fed up and the fact these people were there to watch a football match only to find them selves dead is sth i honestly cant wrap my head around till this minute.
     
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    Fred said:
    This is true. I'm not sure what to believe as we Arabs are always quick to resort to conspiracy theories, but truth be told every Egyptian i've talked to has told me that yesterday's events had nothing to do with football and everything to do with politics. In this case it is hard to talk about the events without bringing in the politics.
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    No matter what, violence never had anything with football to do.
     
    Wahdan

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    I lost a friend there. Going to Tahrir in a while. And today the army must and will step down, this must all end..
     
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