Dubai Virgin Radio Dj fired for offensive comments on god (7 Viewers)

[swag]

Don't have a culture? What does that mean?

It means white people can't dance.

Unless they're flaming homosexuals, that is...

 

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[Seven]

Forza Freedom to Insult!

You guys believe in no God. You have no culture. You have friends who you will lose touch with in a few years. You'll move out of your parents’ house (if you haven't already) and will gradually stop talking to them...maybe once or twice a year. You'll get married, divorce after a couple of years. You'll try it again and you'll have a couple of children who'll grow up not really liking you. You'll divorce again and you'll find happiness at the bottom of a bottle. You'll eventually be placed in an old home because your kids won't want to take care of you. You poor souls, enjoy your freedom of speech...that's all ya got!

Not smart, Ze.

 

[Martin]

I think the bigger issue here is how people have a lack of respect.

He was probably thinking his material was innocent enough and they could handle it. And he miscalculated. You don't automatically have to assume that he was deliberately trying to piss people off. I mean why would he? He's a radio dj, he needs an audience.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

He was probably thinking his material was innocent enough and they could handle it. And he miscalculated. You don't automatically have to assume that he was deliberately trying to piss people off. I mean why would he? He's a radio dj, he needs an audience.

That could be true. I'm not condoning the decision to fire him, but was speaking more on a general level ... People here tend to speak of 'freedom of speech' as something that knows no boundaries, even respect. Just got a bit emotional I guess.

 

[Martin]

That could be true. I'm not condoning the decision to fire him, but was speaking more on a general level ... People here tend to speak of 'freedom of speech' as something that knows no boundaries, even respect. Just got a bit emotional I guess.

I'm torn on this. As true as it is that freedom of speech is a direct license for trolling, as soon as you give someone the power to censor things "for our own good" you run the very real risk that they will start censoring by their own agenda. In the English speaking world the boogey man today is called child porn. You can do anything if you say that it's to stop child porn. US ISPs recently censored big parts of usenet on this pretext. There is no way they would be able to justify this if they hadn't said the magic words: child porn. Australia is now considering a directive that would enforce a wide scale internet censorship, blocking not just child porn but a bunch of other things. The tampering, if passed, would be more severe than they do in Iran.

Just as there are magical words like "god" that you can use to get people foaming at the mouth, there are other words like "child porn" or "terrorism" or "communism" that you can use to make people lose all sense of proportion and agree to the most insane things for their own "protection".


So what's more important? The free exchange of ideas or freedom from unpleasant expression?

 

[Seven]

I'm torn on this. As true as it is that freedom of speech is a direct license for trolling, as soon as you give someone the power to censor things "for our own good" you run the very real risk that they will start censoring by their own agenda. In the English speaking world the boogey man today is called child porn. You can do anything if you say that it's to stop child porn. US ISPs recently censored big parts of usenet on this pretext. There is no way they would be able to justify this if they hadn't said the magic words: child porn. Australia is now considering a directive that would enforce a wide scale internet censorship, blocking not just child porn but a bunch of other things. The tampering, if passed, would be more severe than they do in Iran.

Just as there are magical words like "god" that you can use to get people foaming at the mouth, there are other words like "child porn" or "terrorism" or "communism" that you can use to make people lose all sense of proportion and agree to the most insane things for their own "protection".


So what's more important? The free exchange of ideas or freedom from unpleasant expression?

There have been written numerous books on what could happen if there is no freedom of speech. There have been written few that talk about the complete opposite. I know there are many things you can say about that argument, but it holds to some extent.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Anyone here use stumbleupon? I clicked it while reading this thread and this came up.

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that is soooooo typical of some customers!

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

Firing him was an overreaction IMO BUT somebody said this is not his first offence so maybe he had it coming.

Look, it's as simple as this, what may be funny to you may not be others. It's as simple as that. If somebody were to go to the states and joke about 9/11 they'd probably be burned at the stake. You just hit a nerve. I understand that people lost their loved ones in 9/11 but you just gotta accept that God and religion is an integral part of that community and they take it as seriously as it can get. So what? Different cultures, different beliefs... God knows why some people here think their culture or belief is 'right' and try imposing it on others, it irks me. People are just different, always been always will, deal with it. And knowing this, to go in and sure he probably didn't say anything bad about God that warranted such reaction, but he was playing with fire and I'm sure as hell he knew it. I think the bigger issue here is how people have a lack of respect. What is not right to you may be right to other people. Rather than trying to change their minds, because in most cases you just can't, you might as well do well to just respect their cultures and laws.

not true, george carlin has a whole comedy bit about 9/11

 

[Il Re]

not true, george carlin has a whole comedy bit about 9/11

do u care about your mum bes?

 

[Fred]

Ok if freedom of speech has no boundaries, can i say anything i want here?? and i mean anything, without getting any warnings.


Come to think of it, why are their warnings in the first place?? they are restricting freedom of speech..and how come people get banned for things they said??? where is the freedom of speech??

 

[Azzurri7]

Ok if freedom of speech has no boundaries, can i say anything i want here?? and i mean anything, without getting any warnings.


Come to think of it, why are their warnings in the first place?? they are restricting freedom of speech..and how come people get banned for things they said??? where is the freedom of speech??

Funny thing is that I've been called a racist for calling Zlatan Zingaro because according to them they felt offended. What's even more funny is that the same members that called me a racist are now insulting God... but hey, they're not offending anyone..... they have the rights for that.

 

[Ahmed]

Funny thing is that I've been called a racist for calling Zlatan Zingaro because according to them they felt offended. What's even more funny is that the same members that called me a racist are now insulting God... but hey, they're not offending anyone..... they have the rights for that.

 

[Fred]

Funny thing is that I've been called a racist for calling Zlatan Zingaro because according to them they felt offended. What's even more funny is that the same members that called me a racist are now insulting God... but hey, they're not offending anyone..... they have the rights for that.

exactly, i mean its ok to offend one billion muslims by insulting god, but calling Zlatan a Zingaro..no, your out of order Rab

 

[Il Re]

Funny thing is that I've been called a racist for calling Zlatan Zingaro because according to them they felt offended. What's even more funny is that the same members that called me a racist are now insulting God... but hey, they're not offending anyone..... they have the rights for that.

post of the month

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

do u care about your mum bes?

my mother is dead. why would you bring her to the conversation

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

Ok if freedom of speech has no boundaries, can i say anything i want here?? and i mean anything, without getting any warnings.


Come to think of it, why are their warnings in the first place?? they are restricting freedom of speech..and how come people get banned for things they said??? where is the freedom of speech??

because juventuz is a privately-owned "company". you get banned here for the same reasons the guy got fired. if you don't like it, go somewhere else. you agreed to it when you clicked on "I agree" on the terms and conditions page, the same way the DJ most likely did when he signed his contract.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

exactly, i mean its ok to offend one billion muslims by insulting god, but calling Zlatan a Zingaro..no, your out of order Rab

this same conversation was held at the forum before. you're response is there

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Funny thing is that I've been called a racist for calling Zlatan Zingaro because according to them they felt offended. What's even more funny is that the same members that called me a racist are now insulting God... but hey, they're not offending anyone..... they have the rights for that.

The hypocrisy inthat Freedom of Speech BS is amazing.

 

[Ahmed]

not amazing really, typical is more like it

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

just goes to show you how much religion is really respected in the countries of the world that really matter