Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (10 Viewers)

[Martin]

 

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[IliveForJuve]

so where is your evidence that God doesent exist?

I don't really need it. If people claim the existence of a higher and omnipotent being, they're the ones that need to prove their affirmations.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I don't really need it. If people claim the existence of a higher and omnipotent being, they're the ones that need to prove their affirmations.

exactly

 

[zizinho]

I don't really need it. If people claim the existence of a higher and omnipotent being, they're the ones that need to prove their affirmations.

you dont need it or dont have it? also, why do you have the need to argue with some random christian guy about the existence of God which you dont believe exists in the first place.

 

[Enron]

you dont need it or dont have it? also, why do you have the need to argue with some random christian guy about the existence of God which you dont believe exists in the first place.

Why do people argue about anything?

 

[zizinho]

Why do people argue about anything?

many reasons

 

[IliveForJuve]

you dont need it or dont have it? also, why do you have the need to argue with some random christian guy about the existence of God which you dont believe exists in the first place.

It wasn't a random guy, it was a friend of mine who assumed I believed in God so I stated my position and that's how it started so that's the reason.

There is plenty of "evidence" out there to prove that God is imaginary but like I said, it's not necessary. No one would even believe in God if their parents hadn't indoctrinated them when they were kids.

 

[zizinho]

It wasn't a random guy, it was a friend of mine who assumed I believed in God so I stated my position and that's how it started so that's the reason.

There is plenty of "evidence" out there to prove that God is imaginary but like I said, it's not necessary. No one would even believe in God if their parents hadn't indoctrinated them when they were kids.

like?

 

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[zizinho]

planets?

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what exactly are you proving with this (if this is an answer to my "like?")

 

[IliveForJuve]

like?

Would you believe virgin birth without DNA testing? Also, I know how believers love to ask for proof when they should be the ones providing evidence.

 

[Hængebøffer]

planets?

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what exactly are you proving with this (if this is an answer to my "like?")

Look up Russell's teapot.

 

[IliveForJuve]

That pic of planets reminded me that according to the bible the earth is 5000-6000 years old

 

[zizinho]

Would you believe virgin birth without DNA testing? Also, I know how believers love to ask for proof when they should be the ones providing evidence.

look, i have no intention of proving anything to you right now nor starting a debate with you (maybe tomorrow) but im still waiting to see a valid evidence from your side since you said that your friend "refused to accept any logical reason you gave him that God doesent exist". thats the only reason im still awake and im curious to see what you have...

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That pic of planets reminded me that according to the bible the earth is 5000-6000 years old

im not christian (im muslim) and i didnt read the bible (some parts yes). where exactly does it say this if anyone can tell me...

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Look up Russell's teapot.

oh, i should really go to bed since i didnt see it before you pointed it out. i still dont get whats the point of it...

 

[Trequartista]

There is no evidence that God doesn't exist or that he does exist.

There are logical arguments on both side but I find none of them very convincing. Therefore, belief in God is merely a choice, you choose to believe or to disbelieve.

I was an atheist for a long time because I thought that there was no evidence of God's existence. However, I'm a Catholic once again because I choose to believe that God exists for other reasons.

 

[Zacheryah]

There is no evidence that God doesn't exist or that he does exist.

There are logical arguments on both side but I find none of them very convincing. Therefore, belief in God is merely a choice, you choose to believe or to disbelieve.

I was an atheist for a long time because I thought that there was no evidence of God's existence. However, I'm a Catholic once again because I choose to believe that God exists for other reasons.

I suppose that makes you an Agnost ?

 

[zizinho]

I suppose that makes you an Agnost ?

whats an Agnost?

 

[Trequartista]

I suppose that makes you an Agnost ?

Well I'm an agnostic in the sense that I think that the existence of God is unknowable.

However, I choose to live as if God existed, even though I'm not certain at all that he does. In any case, it helps me as a person.

 

[zizinho]

Well I'm an agnostic in the sense that I think that the existence of God is unknowable.

However, I choose to live as if God existed, even though I'm not certain at all that he does.

hm, this sounds interesting. how do you do this? and is there a particular religion you choose for this purpose?

 

[IliveForJuve]

look, i have no intention of proving anything to you right now nor starting a debate with you (maybe tomorrow) but im still waiting to see a valid evidence from your side since you said that your friend "refused to accept any logical reason you gave him that God doesent exist". thats the only reason im still awake and im curious to see what you have...

Ah well, in that case I'll just use simple logic because it would take me forever to explain why I don't believe in God.

Christians (and other believers) believe God is omniscient and knows everything, including everything that has happened and will happen, as well as every thought your mind creates before you think it. If that's the case, there is no "free will."

They also believe God is omnipotent, and can do anything. Problem is, if God can do anything but doesn't lift a finger to stop all the disasters, massacres and wars that have happened, are happening now and will happen in the future, God is also a psychopath who enjoys watching our misery. However, if God is not omniscient or omnipotent... well, in that case God is not a "god" and doesn't exist

And the countless weaknesses of religious arguments, explanations, and apologetics...

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There is no evidence that God doesn't exist or that he does exist.

There are logical arguments on both side but I find none of them very convincing. Therefore, belief in God is merely a choice, you choose to believe or to disbelieve.

I was an atheist for a long time because I thought that there was no evidence of God's existence. However, I'm a Catholic once again because I choose to believe that God exists for other reasons.

Which is why I put the word evidence in quotation marks However, it just seems easier to me not to believe in something other people say exists but can't see, hear or percieve through their 5 senses and the only reason they believe in it is because they were indoctrinated since they were kids or because God changed their lives when they were alcoholics.