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What a disgrace, what a fucking disgrace, fuck your religion, god, fuck your laws, fucking dirty sharia law cunts, sons of a whores, ugly motherfuckers, you can't hug and/or kiss your girlfriend and they have patrols to control it............WOW...........
 

Fellas

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Jun 13, 2005
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Juventino[RUS];4542523 said:
ye, otherwise ALL MIGHTY GOD will not open up the heaven gates for ya
Forza Chechnya

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Is it okey to make rasict comments about other religions? I understand if people would debate in a normal way, but people go over the line. Well I guess the mods on this site has nothing against it, to ban people for shit things is okey. But rasict comments is alright
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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We arent making racist comments against other religions. We are beeing cynical about what they do.


I fucking hate it when people use the word "racism" for just about anything to get things their way, just like jews are abusing the holocaust when it suits them, but cant care less about countless death palestine since they occupied that zone and answered every rocket with a 15x stronger air bombardment.
 

X Æ A-12

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Is it okey to make rasict comments about other religions? I understand if people would debate in a normal way, but people go over the line. Well I guess the mods on this site has nothing against it, to ban people for shit things is okey. But rasict comments is alright
religion is an opinion. criticizing/disagreeing w/ it is not racist. Opinions are and should be subject to criticism or you end up with all sorts of insane outcomes.
 

Fellas

Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
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We arent making racist comments against other religions. We are beeing cynical about what they do.


I $#@!ing hate it when people use the word "racism" for just about anything to get things their way, just like jews are abusing the holocaust when it suits them, but cant care less about countless death palestine since they occupied that zone and answered every rocket with a 15x stronger air bombardment.
Ok you are right about that, but if we talk about the picture you made a comment about, do you think a women with free will can take that decision herself to wear what she want? In this case clothes that covers her body and hair because religious belief. Isen't it up to that person? Or what is it that you are against? Or was you post targeting the sharia law?

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I am a muslim, not only by birth but also by belief. I have no problem with jews dressing their way, or people who like reagge have their style, or punk style, rock style. But in Europe and many other places around the world. The dresscode of muslim women have been up for debate and people are against it. Why? doesen't people have the right to dress how they want? How does it affect you? I understand that people who fly for example most be checked and all that, and the argument that you can't see the person behind the niqab. But I have worked with security at a airport, the solution was very easy, a women take her aside and she can be contolled if the need for it was there ofcourse.

I don't see why people bother to care about others, you choose your life and all about it. Be who ever you want do be. I dont share the faith or opinions with example buddist people but I respect them. Let them have their clothing for example.

About other things, example the Sharia Law, every country have their law. In Usa death penalty is common in some states. The difference is that in a muslim country ruled by sharia law, to have sex before marriage or cheating is a very big crime. In this times around the world, cheating and having sex before marriage has been very common, but if you look back how things was before the opinion of this around the world was more harder. Now is normal to cheat, have sex with several partners in a week. Many don't care, as long as it's not the persons own mother :D. I as a muslim live by the ethic, I don't whish for another person that I don't wish for myself. I don't wont my sister or mother to have sex with random guys at partys, or their husband to cheat on them. So im not doing it to others sister, mother, every women is a sister, mother, dother of someone. Maby people have different opinions but that's mine. My English suck I know :D
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Just because you don't want your sister to have sex with random guys doesn't mean she doesn't. The issue isn't Islam, it's the fact that there's no separation between church and state. Any laws that discriminate against a type of person like that are barbaric and outdated.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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The problem with muslims is that in country's where they follow the koran very strickly, there is a gigantic supression of the female individue. Women are worth nothing, males decide everything. I am against feminism and feminazi's. Treat fair, not equal. But what happens there is simply disgusting.
Furthermore, a state should never be ruled by religion. Their laws are ages old and outdated. Muslim culture is per definition inferior to western culture (in europe) because we have evolved past that. We separate state and religion.
Another big issue with muslims, is that they want to have a right of truth. You cannot do this, you cannot do that. You cannot mock the religion itself, its forbidden. We in the western world build a social shield. You have to be able to laugh with everything, because like that it relativates itself, wich is important. Religions refuse this. Make a cartoon about muhammed, and they send death squads towards you. It becomes very scary if something cannot be laughed with. Comedians even make racist jokes, but to even it out, will then proceed to mock racists themselves right after. Thats allright.
Islam as a culture has a few nice value's. But the religion itself is absolutely incompatible with westeren way of thinking, is lagging a few centuries behind, doesnt want to adapt in general, and for these reasons is seen as a danger for our way of life by the majority of european population.

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Just because you don't want your sister to have sex with random guys doesn't mean she doesn't. The issue isn't Islam, it's the fact that there's no separation between church and state. Any laws that discriminate against a type of person like that are barbaric and outdated.
Indeed :tup:
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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I would much rather hear the opinions of the problems of muslim world from someone actually living there and being muslim too.

Anyway, the rus started the talk is not only disrespectful but retarded.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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If a women gets arrested and jailed for 2 years for driving a car, i dont want to imagine what would happen if she gave her opinion to a western journalist about how its like for women to live there.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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And if a women is arested for 2 years for that it means that everything else is bad and should be changed according to our western morals and way if life? That is not neceseraly the best thing for the people living there.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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If a women gets arrested and jailed for 2 years for driving a car, i dont want to imagine what would happen if she gave her opinion to a western journalist about how its like for women to live there.
You might find a clue if you check how many non-muslim women from england, russia, ukraine, japan and every other corner of the world are getting married with a muslim.
 

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