Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (16 Viewers)

[Sheik Yerbouti]

free will doesn't exist.

Alas, in the kingdom of god, only an illusion of free will exists.

 

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[ZoSo]

not this again

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You're not very deep, are you?

He's about as deep as a dried up puddle

 

[IrishZebra]

Alas, in the kingdom of god, only an illusion of free will exists.

A design for making choices does not take away from the fact that different choices existed to begin with.

 

[Nzoric]

Alas, in the kingdom of god, only an illusion of free will exists.

No really, free will - as it's defined - doesn't exist.

 

[Völler]

This thread is 367 pages. Did anyone get any smarter about anything at all from reading this thread?
Serious question.

 

[piotrr]

This thread is 367 pages. Did anyone get any smarter about anything at all from reading this thread?
Serious question.

This is the first time i visit this thread and only because i saw this perfect question

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

A design for making choices does not take away from the fact that different choices existed to begin with.

It doesn't. But an all-knowing god who knows what you're gonna choose does take it away. If there is true free will, then he won't know what we'll choose.

No really, free will - as it's defined - doesn't exist.

How is it defined?

This thread is 367 pages. Did anyone get any smarter about anything at all from reading this thread?
Serious question.

I did.

 

[IrishZebra]

God is omnipotent not us, in theory the issue is one of definition of a term as free will being free from design, but is it to be free from supernatural design? Can we logically dictate the behaviour of a being that obeys no laws of anything?

 

[Völler]

I did.

Cool! Thread delivers then!
The pages I've read is more trashtalking than anything else, but I might have missed the good stuff.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[IrishZebra]

Imagine nooo religion

 

[Fr3sh]

Then man would find something else to preach about or feel entitled too.

 

[IrishZebra]

Capitalism.

 

[Fr3sh]

Voila.

 

[Trequartista]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/04/argenitina-videla-bergoglio-repentance

Interesting.

 

[Jem83]

 

[Zé Tahir]

Picking up where Rus left it?

 

[Jem83]

Nah, just found that picture and didn't know where else to post it