Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (22 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

Forgive me for not sharing your fantasies about human anatomy.

Many of the stories in the Quran come from the Jewish Talmud, the Midrash, and many apocryphal works.
1. The source of Sura 3:35-37 is the fanciful book called The Protevangelion's James the Lesser.
2. The source of Sura 87:19 is the Testament of Abraham.
3. The source of Sura 27:17-44 is the Second Targum of Esther.
4. The fantastic tale that God made a man "die for a hundred years" with no ill effects on his food, drink, or donkey was a Jewish fable (Sura 2:259ff.).
5. The idea that Moses was resurrected and other material came from the Jewish Talmud (Sura 2:55, 56, 67).
6. The story in Sura 5:30,31 can also be found in pre-Islamic works from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer, the Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah and the Targum of Jerusalem.
7. The tale of Abraham being delivered from Nimrod's fire came from the Midrash Rabbah (see Suras 21:51-71; 29:16, 17; 37:97,98).
It must be also pointed out that Nimrod and Abraham did not live at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Quran who did not live at the same time.
8. The non-biblical details of the visit of the Queen of Sheba (Saba) in Sura 27:20-44 came from the Second Targum of the Book of Esther.
9. The source of Sura 2:102 is no doubt the Midrash Yalkut (chapter 44).
10. The story found in Sura 7:171 of God lifting up Mount Sinai and holding it over the heads of the Jews as a threat to squash them if they rejected the law came from the Jewish book Abodah Sarah.
11. The story of the making of the golden calf in the wilderness, in which the image jumped out of the fire fully formed and actually mooed (Suras 7:148; 20:88), came from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer.
12, The seven heavens and hells described in the Quran came from the Zohar and the Hagigah.
13. Muhammad utilized the Testament of Abraham to teach that a scale or balance will be used on the day of judgment to weigh good and bad deeds in order to determine whether one goes to heaven or hell (Suras 42:17; 101:6-9).

God's prophet The biggest plagiary in the history of man

And i love the legend that he couldn't read e write anything

 

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[Raz]

Forgive me for not sharing your fantasies about human anatomy.

It's your loss.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's your loss.

Sure.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Because if the religion is false, it will obviously fail and loose it's fallowers through out a bigger span of time.

Fingers crossed for this :xfinger:

 

[Raz]

Fingers crossed for this :xfinger:

You want it to fail?

 

[Azzurri7]

Fingers crossed for this :xfinger:

No need to cross fingers, it's already heading where you want it.

 

[Raz]

No need to cross fingers, it's already heading where you want it.

You haven't voted. You think there is such thing as god or everything just material?

 

[Buck Fuddy]

You want it to fail?

I see organised religion as a despicable "thing", so I absolutely want all of them to fail.

No need to cross fingers, it's already heading where you want it.

Fingers crossed to speed up the process, then

 

[Azzurri7]

You haven't voted. You think there is such thing as god or everything just material?

I pretend to believe there's a creator. But I'm confident there's no such a thing.

 

[Fred]

Why do you pretend then? Social pressure?

 

[Raz]

Organised as in vatican? I agree, that's just a corporation same as coca cola. Though I didn't meant it that way. I meant religion as in ideas, scriptures, teachings, not preasts exploiting everything possible.

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I pretend to believe there's a creator. But I'm confident there's no such a thing.

Same question as Fred's, why?

 

[Azzurri7]

Why do you pretend then? Social pressure?

Because even if you don't believe in god, it's mentally healthy to pretend to believe there's a tally for each sin we commit, IMHO.

 

[Fred]

Because even if you don't believe in god, it's mentally healthy to pretend to believe there's a tally for each sin we commit, IMHO.

Thats an interesting proposition

 

[Raz]

Because even if you don't believe in god, it's mentally healthy to pretend to believe there's a tally for each sin we commit, IMHO.

But what do you mean pretend in this situation? Wouldn't that be considered believing or maybe hoping? How can you pretend to yourself to believe? To outside yeah, but yourself?

 

[Maddy]

The heart only pumps blood. So yes, it's only the mind. EVERYTHING comes out of the mind. Not the heart.

That's just sad you think so.

wtf raz??

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Get used to it. He puts the 'Raz' is 'crazy'.

 

[Nzoric]

Because even if you don't believe in god, it's mentally healthy to pretend to believe there's a tally for each sin we commit, IMHO.

Top post.

 

[Raz]

wtf raz??

You guys want to take everything literaly and at face value. Boring.

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Get used to it. He puts the 'Raz' is 'crazy'.

I like it, if only it rhymed too

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Look it up playa what am I Google

FFS

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The heart sends signals to the brain if you didn't know Mr 21st century.

So when you look at the one you love, is the love you feel for them all in your head? It's just chemical reactions?

New scientific evidence shows that the heart sends our brain extensive emotional and intuitive signals.

As if someone needed scientific evidence to tell us that in the first place.

What if a man looks at another man he loves and gets those feelings?

No good? What should I tell my boyfriend?

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The heart sends signals to the brain if you didn't know Mr 21st century.

So when you look at the one you love, is the love you feel for them all in your head? It's just chemical reactions?

New scientific evidence shows that the heart sends our brain extensive emotional and intuitive signals.

As if someone needed scientific evidence to tell us that in the first place.

What if a man looks at another man he loves and gets those feelings?

No good? What should I tell my boyfriend?

 

[ZoSo]

I do. But everything I hear someone say that, I feel uncomfortable. We live in the 21st century where we have a pretty good understanding of the human anatomy. So to suggest that the heart does anything like the sort of the brain does is just factually wrong.

You should read more. People who have had heart transplants sometimes start doing things that the donor would do, like play piano etc (not as well, but it came out of nothing).