Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (30 Viewers)

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Apr 15, 2006
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I have also asked myself the same question many times. The same thing can be applied to the Universe as well. We've all heard of the big bang but then where did the materials responsible for the big bang originate?
Science's greatest arrogance is to think it can answer such questions. Religion's greatest arrogance is to think that it already has. :)

I think it's a question that we might not be able to mentally handle, at least I know I can't. I do know I am not going to waste my time on a deity of human invention, though.
Aye!

That's not accurate kind David had earthly parents and was only God's son by the abrahamic lineage.
Why is it not accurate? God says that he will be his father, and David will be his son. An adopted child is still a child.

I think the author of John 3:16 was either oblivious to Psalms, or was lying.

Like Lilith Said always there beginning and the end alpha and omega
:lol: Special pleading. Told ya.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Science's greatest arrogance is to think it can answer such questions. Religion's greatest arrogance is to think that it already has. :)



Aye!



Why is it not accurate? God says that he will be his father, and David will be his son. An adopted child is still a child.

I think the author of John 3:16 was either oblivious to Psalms, or was lying.



:lol: Special pleading. Told ya.
Christ isn't an adopted son he's only begotten totally different. Also once again your adding religious minutiae that has nothing to do with the question. If youre going to continue to be a fool about this an just mock I am done discussing it with you and will only speak to others. I have asked repeatedly for you to show the respect you expect for yourself to others but you still insist on being an ass.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Christ isn't an adopted son he's only begotten totally different.
Aah yes. I missed the 'begotten' part. Apologies.
Also once again your adding religious minutiae that has nothing to do with the question. If youre going to continue to be a fool about this an just mock I am done discussing it with you and will only speak to others. I have asked repeatedly for you to show the respect you expect for yourself to others but you still insist on being an ass.
The Psalms question was not related to the question of the thread. You didn't see me connect your response to the question, did you? Besides, I've told you repeatedly that this thread has grown to be more than just a place to discuss whether god exists. If you want to keep the discussions in this thread strictly on-topic, then I don't mind creating a 'General Religious Discussion thread' just to please you.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Aah yes. I missed the 'begotten' part. Apologies.


The Psalms question was not related to the question of the thread. You didn't see me connect your response to the question, did you? Besides, I've told you repeatedly that this thread has grown to be more than just a place to discuss whether god exists. If you want to keep the discussions in this thread strictly on-topic, then I don't mind creating a 'General Religious Discussion thread' just to please you.
Actually everyone else was having the basic deistic discussion only you constantly bring in semantics and I believe it's because you have fear. Fear that God does exist and you don't know how or why and which way to find it so you do what you do. Trying to comfort yourself
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Actually everyone else was having the basic deistic discussion only you constantly bring in semantics and I believe it's because you have fear. Fear that God does exist and you don't know how or why and which way to find it so you do what you do. Trying to comfort yourself
You clearly have no idea about the evolution of this thread. Look back into the thread and you'll see that there are many discussions going on that are not about the basic deity. This is not something that only I'm doing just to annoy you. It's been done before. This thread is more than what it seems to be. More than what the thread title says. So shut it.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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You clearly have no idea about the evolution of this thread. Look back into the thread and you'll see that there are many discussions going on that are not about the basic deity. This is not something that only I'm doing just to annoy you. It's been done before. This thread is more than what it seems to be. More than what the thread title says. So shut it.
You shut it. I don't know who the fuck you think you are in this thread. You annoy both believers and non believers with your inane stupidity and you boss people around like you own this topic. Meanwhile your just a pedantic little trite fool. So do us and yourself a favor and fuck off
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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He's being respectful. You just gotta learn to be tolerant of his views.
The problem is there has been Manu a time through out this where he starts just as he is now and it turns into mockery and disrespect of believers. Him and I have had this out repeatedly. He always diverts from the topic to confuse the scenario and complicate the discussion
 
Apr 15, 2006
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You shut it. I don't know who the fuck you think you are in this thread. You annoy both believers and non believers with your inane stupidity and you boss people around like you own this topic.
I've no doubt that I annoy believers. But non-believers too? I'm not aware of any. Give me names.
Meanwhile your just a pedantic little trite fool. So do us and yourself a favor and fuck off
So Christ-like! :touched:
I don't want Sheik to fuck off.
:heart:
The problem is there has been Manu a time through out this where he starts just as he is now and it turns into mockery and disrespect of believers. Him and I have had this out repeatedly. He always diverts from the topic to confuse the scenario and complicate the discussion
I already mentioned that that question was separate from the topic in discussion, and in line with what constitutes as general religions discussion, something that's taken place here MANY times. I don't mind creating a General Religious Dsicussion thread of it helps keep you happy and keeps you from diverting from the questions being asked and start accusing me of mockery, being disrespectful and starting WW3.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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I've no doubt that I annoy believers. But non-believers too? I'm not aware of any. Give me names.

So Christ-like! :touched:

:heart:


I already mentioned that that question was separate from the topic in discussion, and in line with what constitutes as general religions discussion, something that's taken place here MANY times. I don't mind creating a General Religious Dsicussion thread of it helps keep you happy and keeps you from diverting from the questions being asked and start accusing me of mockery, being disrespectful and starting WW3.
Look at the last two pages two guys non believers state in the thread
 

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