Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (30 Viewers)

[YasoR17]

Christianity one god? Sort of.

Yes I see what you mean. The trinity is some confusing stuff.

That's different, he said that in islam, god created us for sole reason - to worship him. In Christianity as far as i know it's not like that.

I never said we were created for that sole reason, I said we live on earth for this reason.

 

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[Alen]

YESSSSSSS
Finally!

 

[bianconero]

It's not a true story though I was just joking. Don't tell it to anyone anymore.

The proto-Germanic word for God was ǥuđan. All the Germanic languages (English is one of them) have their roots in the proto-Germanic. So with time they developed differently so the word ǥuđan became GOD in English and Dutch, GOTT in German, GUD in Norwegian, Swedish and Danish and Guð (I guess GUD too) in Icelandic.
That's how you got the word God. It has no
thing to do with the initials of Gomar Oz Dubar.

But that's how a God might act: In a mysterious way.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

That proves what Deneb said, manipulators are haters.

How on earth did you reach this conclusion

 

[Raz]

YESSSSSSS
Finally!

What, did you had an epiphany?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

We only believe in Religions mentionned in Quran, and Hinduism isn't.

Why are you being so close-minded? Do you know that the Hindu manuscripts predate the Abrahamic ones by many years? Plus, Hindu estimates of the age of the earth and the universe is closer to scientific estimates? Yet, why don't you believe it?

They worship statues. It's obvious isn't it? Judaism, Christianity and Islam have in common that there is only one God. In Hinduism they believe in multiple Gods.

Worship statues? So what? How does we worshipping statues negate the existence of the gods?

Well actually, there is only 1 god or essence of god known as Brahman. This essence is represented by Brahma(the creator), Vishnu(the sustainer) and Shiva(the destroyer). All the other gods are actually avatars of these gods or sons of these gods. So you really can pick any god out of these and still end up praying to 1 god. Oh, and might I mention gods that were written about MANY years before Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

So, give me a good reason why you don't believe in Hindu gods? Or shall I say, give me a good reason why these gods don't exist?

 

[Alen]

What, did you had an epiphany?

I've been waiting for almost 5 years for the "My religion is better than your religion" fight.

 

[Raz]

I've been waiting for almost 5 years for the "My religion is better than your religion" fight.

Ah, well it's not the first time it happened here you know, you should visit here more.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I already posted plenty in this thread when i argued with Treq. Facts mentionned in the Quran that were just discovered in later years.

And he already dismissed those because your interpretation are skewed because of your current knowledge of the universe. Besides, these so-called facts you mentioned looked pretty vague. The least an all knowing god could've done was to be a little more specific.

 

[Raz]

And he already dismissed those because your interpretation are skewed because of your current knowledge of the universe. Besides, these so-called facts you mentioned looked pretty vague. The least an all knowing god could've done was to be a little more specific.

Well to be fair, if he would have written a mathematical formule of everything it would be a bit hard to comprehend to the people living in those times.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The trinity is three natures of God in one God, like our mind body and soul, Gods three natures of the Creator, the word and the spirit are the trinity

 

[Raz]

So why are other religions interpretation is wrong, for eg like sheik said with avatars?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Well to be fair, if he would have written a mathematical formule of everything it would be a bit hard to comprehend to the people living in those times.

Doesn't matter. It's the truth. A god should be honest enough to present the truth as it is.

Besides, it's not like the people of the present are able to comprehend it easily anyway.

 

[Raz]

Doesn't matter. It's the truth. A god should be honest enough to present the truth as it is.

Besides, it's not like the people of the present are able to comprehend it easily anyway.

Yeah, but what if it's not practical at all, what if the formula is so big there is no way to fit it properly? That could be somewhat good reason no?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

YESSSSSSS
Finally!

I've been waiting for almost 5 years for the "My religion is better than your religion" fight.

divide and conquer

 

[Cheesio]

I've been waiting for almost 5 years for the "My religion is better than your religion" fight.

We believe in Christianity, Judaism, we believe in their Prophetes, but they don't.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The trinity is three natures of God in one God, like our mind body and soul, Gods three natures of the Creator, the word and the spirit are the trinity

That's the Christian trinity. The Hindu Trinity represents the forces that create life, sustain life and destroy life. 3 very important aspects to human existence, or existence in general. Christians worship only one nature of this trinity(the son) while the Hindus worship all 3. So what's wrong with that?

 

[Alen]

We believe in Christianity, Judaism, we believe in their Prophetes, but they don't.

To be fair, it was kinda hard to make them accept your religion if Momo and co. didn't include prophets and bits of their religions too. It made it easier to convert them.
Like the Christians took many things from pagan religions.

You have their prophets simply because they came earlier. If Islam came before Christianity, you wouldn't have accepted their prophets, imo.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yeah, but what if it's not practical at all, what if the formula is so big there is no way to fit it properly? That could be somewhat good reason no?

Doesn't matter if it is practical or not. The world was created by this god by a certain method, the least he could do is be honest about how you did it. Also, if you created something as wonderful and spectacular as his world and its creatures, would you rather boast to how you did it, or conceal the methods to the people desperately asking the question? Wouldn't it be awesome if a god actually described the big bang? Describe how he created hydrogen and helium, which then fused to create stars and everything else? Wouldn't that be so much more credible than "we came from the stars and the light" or some vague non-sense like that?

 

[YasoR17]

Worship statues? So what? How does we worshipping statues negate the existence of the gods?

Well actually, there is only 1 god or essence of god known as Brahman. This essence is represented by Brahma(the creator), Vishnu(the sustainer) and Shiva(the destroyer). All the other gods are actually avatars of these gods or sons of these gods. So you really can pick any god out of these and still end up praying to 1 god. Oh, and might I mention gods that were written about MANY years before Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

So, give me a good reason why you don't believe in Hindu gods? Or shall I say, give me a good reason why these gods don't exist?

Same reason why I'm not Christian, there is only one God and he has nobody beside him, neither does he have a son.