Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (31 Viewers)

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I wouldn't either.

Pure cynical stubbornness if you won't even concede it even remotely possible.

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The eye is a really complicated organ, we can see over 10 million different colors, it can handle 1.5 million messages simultaneously and there are other characteristics that make our eyes unique.

I don't know much about the subject (I only did a little research tonigt). I was talking with my biology teacher today and she told me that evolution couldn't explain the eye yet, as it is impossible that such an amazing complexity could've developed through a naturalistic process of evolution.

Eagles? Check other mammals?

Our eyes are complex, but not nearly as complex as some other creatures on the planet.

And your biology teacher? What are you, in high school?

lol - excuses excuses - the million monkey theory has been proven wrong long ago and regardless, the world that we live in is an infinite times more complicated than Shakespeare and a Ferrari.

So no one would even concede that it's plausible that a super natural being created the universe?

Proven wrong?

You'd have to do it to prove it wrong....

So keep everything constant until the end of time.

It's extremely likely, a mathematical certainty.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Pure cynical stubbornness if you won't even concede it even remotely possible.

So you don't believe 100% in god then?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Pure cynical stubbornness if you won't even concede it even remotely possible.

....because it's not.

 

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So you don't believe 100% in god then?

Personally I do, but I am astonished at people who would honestly say it's not even a remote possibility.

 

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Personally I do, but I am astonished at people who would honestly say it's not even a remote possibility.

So you don't think there is any chance that god is not real but you scoff at people who feel the opposite way?

 

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So you don't think there is any chance that god is not real but you scoff at people who feel the opposite way?

Astonished doesn't mean scoff. I have not scoffed once in this thread

I have no problem in you guys believing what you like, it's completely your prerogative. But I will defend theism when atheists want to come around on their galloping high horse and tell everyone how stupid, small minded, irrational, and childish theism is.

 

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Ok, ok. It's not proven. That also means that the creationist theory is a fact, no?

Dude, there is no scientific evidences proving creative theory. However, evolution is supported by a long running span of real life observations including but not limited to changes within the human body. Evidence which is concrete, observable, and most importantly replicable within a laboratory setting. Scientists are as we speak studying the neurological changes of mice over time at Johns Hopkins University.

Two major examples are the wisdom tooth and the appendix.

Evolution doesn't have anything to do with creative theory. It's not a competitor with it.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Eagles? Check other mammals?

Our eyes are complex, but not nearly as complex as some other creatures on the planet.

And your biology teacher? What are you, in high school?

Well, they aren't apes, are they?

 

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Dude, there is no scientific evidences proving creative theory. However, evolution is supported by a long running span of real life observations including but not limited to changes within the human body. Evidence which is concrete, observable, and most importantly replicable within a laboratory setting. Scientists are as we speak studying the neurological changes of mice over time at John's Hopkins University.

Two major examples are the wisdom tooth and the appendix.

Evolution doesn't have anything to do with creative theory. It's not a competitor with it.

You speak as though evolution and creation are necessarily exclusive to one another?

 

[Enron]

The eye is a really complicated organ, we can see over 10 million different colors, it can handle 1.5 million messages simultaneously and there are other characteristics that make our eyes unique.

I don't know much about the subject (I only did a little research tonigt). I was talking with my biology teacher today and she told me that evolution couldn't explain the eye yet, as it is impossible that such an amazing complexity could've developed through a naturalistic process of evolution.

Why don't dogs see in color?

Why do birds of prey see so far away?

Why does the Cameleon look all around?

Why is the Lemur upside down?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Astonished doesn't mean scoff. I have not scoffed once in this thread

I have no problem in you guys believing what you like, it's completely your prerogative. But I will defend theism when atheists want to come around on their galloping high horse and tell everyone how stupid, small minded, irrational, and childish theism is.

Well, it is...

 

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Is it not remotely possible that God initiated and controlled evolution?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Well, they aren't apes, are they?

Biology teachers?

Yea, they are, we all are. We are all members of the Great Apes.

 

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Well, it is...

hehe - thankyou again for proving my point - you are a gift

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Is it not remotely possible that God initiated and controlled evolution?

That goes against the idea of Free Will.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Dude, there is no scientific evidences proving creative theory. However, evolution is supported by a long running span of real life observations including but not limited to changes within the human body. Evidence which is concrete, observable, and most importantly replicable within a laboratory setting. Scientists are as we speak studying the neurological changes of mice over time at Johns Hopkins University.

Two major examples are the wisdom tooth and the appendix.

Evolution doesn't have anything to do with creative theory. It's not a competitor with it.

I never said that but I didn't understand what Trequartista tried to say at first.

Anyways, I'm not even arguing with people that support evolution and I know they can back up what they say with evidence but I was just saying evolution is not 100% proven.

 

[Trequartista]

That goes against the idea of Free Will.

Good point.

 

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That goes against the idea of Free Will.

lol - being born to the parents you have, your colour, height, the age you're born in. That's all against free will. Big deal?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

AC, a Reagan quote, really??????

Yeah, I was wondering. Nobody likes Reagan, right?