Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (18 Viewers)

[Gabriel]

One thing, all of that and the universe has been working for many years and it'll be working till the end of the world.
Maybe all those thing that points that they will be a dysfunction in how the universe is working is also pointing that life will come to an end. And this claim is supported by every religion.

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Actually, it will keep working just as fine AFTER the end of the world.

 

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[Zé Tahir]

Actually, it will keep working just as fine AFTER the end of the world.

The 'world' in this case is?

 

[Linebreak]

Because they have been labelled as such though, there is more proof of Santa then there is of God though. How is God more logical and likely at all?

The concept that I used yesterday.

If I pulled up in a brand new Ferrari and you asked me, where the heck did you get that from?

I tell you that a Tornado swept through a local wrecking yard and I had a look afterwards and by chance, the Tornado had pulled all these parts together and created a Ferrari. So I took it.

Would you think I'm normal?

 

[Salvo]

As opposed to a man in the sky put it together for me in 7 days? Your example is in no way comparable to the big bang.

 

[Zé Tahir]

The concept that I used yesterday.

If I pulled up in a brand new Ferrari and you asked me, where the heck did you get that from?

I tell you that a Tornado swept through a local wrecking yard and I had a look afterwards and by chance, the Tornado had pulled all these parts together and created a Ferrari. So I took it.

Would you think I'm normal?

I like this analogy.

That's essentially how the everything came to be...a series of repeating of 'random' events that make us 'lucky' to exist.

 

[Salvo]

That is perfectly reasonable, that is of course more likely than a man in the sky doing it all. Its not as if the world was just formed as it is now, did God create the rest of the planets as well or what?

 

[Linebreak]

As opposed to a man in the sky put it together for me in 7 days? Your example is in no way comparable to the big bang.

It is comparable in many ways, except, the big bang is infinite times more complicated

 

[Linebreak]

That is perfectly reasonable, that is of course more likely than a man in the sky doing it all. Its not as if the world was just formed as it is now, did God create the rest of the planets as well or what?

The entire universe - all of existence

 

[Salvo]

Come on, seriously? A being doing this is more likely then coincidence? So which God is right, real? May I ask are you Muslim, Christian?

 

[Linebreak]

Come on, seriously? A being doing this is more likely then coincidence? So which God is right, real? May I ask are you Muslim, Christian?

Forget about religions, you are repulsed by them.

We are simply talking about the possibility of God creating life

 

[Salvo]

I am not repulsed by them, do not put words in my mouth! How can we forget religion, God creating life is religion! Ok may I ask when God created life what did he create first? Did Dinosaurs and humans live simultaneously?

 

[Zé Tahir]

That is perfectly reasonable, that is of course more likely than a man in the sky doing it all. Its not as if the world was just formed as it is now, did God create the rest of the planets as well or what?

Why do you have this assumption that we believe God is in the sky?

I'm a little sick of arguing with people who make giant assumptions. It's my fault. Ma bad.

 

[Salvo]

The point isn't where he is though so its a bit of a non issue.

 

[Zé Tahir]

The point isn't where he is though so its a bit of a non issue.

But it does when you're using mockery, right?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Why do you have this assumption that we believe God is in the sky?

I'm a little sick of arguing with people who make giant assumptions. It's my fault. Ma bad.

Because a LOT of pictures depicting gods that I've seen, and probably many others have too, are shown to be in the sky. Floating on a cloud. Thus the belief.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I have a question.

Where is god?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I have another question: who made the rule that God is timeless and spaceless, and thus not bound by time or the rules of physics?

 

[Zé Tahir]

I have another question: who made the rule that God is timeless and spaceless, and thus not bound by time or the rules of physics?

Stephen Hawking, for one.

edit: And whether time actually exists up to debate.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I have another question: who made the rule that God is timeless and spaceless, and thus not bound by time or the rules of physics?

The perfect deflection for any logically inquiry.

 

[ALC]

Spaceless. That's like the opposite of existing.