Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (21 Viewers)

[TrezJuve]

Why can't we do it to dead people .? If all we need to be alive is functionning organs ? why can't we give life to dead people ? or create life ?

Because when an organism dies, its cells start dying too. They self-destruct.

Also, it is possible to 'create' life: cloning and GMO' are good examples.

 

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[Enron]

GMOing isn't really creating life.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Did somebody say soul up in here?

 

[TrezJuve]

GMOing isn't really creating life.

Hence why I said 'create' Because in both cases it's not exactly creating in the same sense cheese implied.

Otherwise, you're right, but it's also kind of like creating new sorts of organism.

 

[Zé Tahir]

That makes no sense whatsoever. Why say that everything that has a beginning has a cause but make a exception in the case of god? Like I said, that's special pleading, which is a logical fallacy.

Even atheist scientists agree on the idea that if God does exist then we can't ask who created him because the concept of everything having coming from something is bound to our laws of physics.

 

[Linebreak]

Yea cockbreak is a real comedian.

Kyle you're always so kind

 

[X Æ A-12]

True. I'm kind of a dick when it comes to religion.

I should be less so.

 

[Salvo]

May I ask, doesn't the idea of god sound somewhat illogical and childish though?

 

[Linebreak]

True. I'm kind of a dick when it comes to religion.

I should be less so.

I doubt it'd kill ya

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I said I don't have the answer and have no problem with that

If only you had the same opinion about the origin of life and and everything else that Trenton claims to know.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Wow, understand much? The written laws of physics and chemistry is our way to explain what is actually going on. Why does someone have to create it, once you get over the stumbling block that everything has to be designed and created you'll get it.

Everything does have an origin. That's what science is there for...to study how things work and how they came about

The Big Bang theory states that everything in our Universe came from a singularity. The fact that there was 1 less antimatter than matter caused the Universe to exist or nothing would exist, then how thanks to supernovae whose dust 'completed' our planet. I can go on...everything has a cause...everything that occurs and has occurred is never lost and its 'blueprint' exists (scientists, namely Hawkings, once thought blackholes destroyed information but that was proven to be wrong).

The only thing scientists have no clue whatsoever about is what caused the singularity, how it came about, and what existed before it.

 

[Linebreak]

May I ask, doesn't the idea of god sound somewhat illogical and childish though?

Not at all

 

[Salvo]

What is more logical and likely though? A God? Or a coincidence?

Is the idea of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny childish?

 

[Zé Tahir]

May I ask, doesn't the idea of god sound somewhat illogical and childish though?

I find atheism to be a pretty conceited and childish concept.

 

[X Æ A-12]

May I ask, doesn't the idea of god sound somewhat illogical and childish though?

I think it's very human to believe in a higher power.

I doubt it'd kill ya

You're really not one to judge though, dude.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I find atheism to be a pretty conceited and childish concept.

How so?

 

[Salvo]

I find atheism to be a pretty conceited and childish concept.

Why? Now answer the second question .

 

[Linebreak]

What is more logical and likely though? A God? Or a coincidence?

Is the idea of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny childish?

God is more logical and likely. Santa Clause and Easter Bunny are childish hence they're children's events

 

[Zé Tahir]

Why?

The poor are said to believe in God because it gives them hope. At the same time most of the worlds atheist population is concentrated in Europe & North America; where people are considerably well off. It's where pretty much all of life's necessities are met and where people live comfortably. When everything you need in life is provided for you one can understand why there is so much godlessness here. Then look at how individualism is so prevalaent here. People put up these fake facades and think they're big shit.

Children aren't mentally developed, they're the center of everyone's attention, and have everything provided for them. They, too, don't grasp the idea of a God.

 

[Salvo]

God is more logical and likely. Santa Clause and Easter Bunny are childish hence they're children's events

Because they have been labelled as such though, there is more proof of Santa then there is of God though. How is God more logical and likely at all?