Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (18 Viewers)

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The Curr

Senior Member
Feb 3, 2007
33,705
A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can doubt the existence of brains by asking if everyone in the world has been tested for one. - The Curr
 

Mohamad Anwar

Junior Member
Mar 5, 2011
128
I want to beleive in god and I beleive most people want to,the idea of a place being better than where we live now is tempting and for sure is better than just dying with no resurrection but the idea of no resurrection has been always able to convince me more than the heaven which is more for me something people invented to be able to convince poor people and make them satisfied because
the idea of a god who knows what you are going to do is not convincing,alsdo I cant beleive I do taboo stuff because of the devil,I just do it because I want to
however I wont be an athiest until science provide an idea about pre big bang universe,theists respond to this point is that the prescence of god makes him above all laws of physics,mathematics but that cannot convince me,in fact nothing has convinced me at all and the only thing I know is that I know nothing
I have been a muslim,I will try to keep on praying and fasting but will try to enjoy my life away from the restricted muslim life(no alchols,no sex,etc,..
 

The Curr

Senior Member
Feb 3, 2007
33,705
I want to beleive in god and I beleive most people want to,the idea of a place being better than where we live now is tempting and for sure is better than just dying with no resurrection but the idea of no resurrection has been always able to convince me more than the heaven which is more for me something people invented to be able to convince poor people and make them satisfied because
the idea of a god who knows what you are going to do is not convincing,alsdo I cant beleive I do taboo stuff because of the devil,I just do it because I want to
however I wont be an athiest until science provide an idea about pre big bang universe,theists respond to this point is that the prescence of god makes him above all laws of physics,mathematics but that cannot convince me,in fact nothing has convinced me at all and the only thing I know is that I know nothing
I have been a muslim,I will try to keep on praying and fasting but will try to enjoy my life away from the restricted muslim life(no alchols,no sex,etc,..
Good, sensible post. :tup:
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
I want to beleive in god and I beleive most people want to,the idea of a place being better than where we live now is tempting and for sure is better than just dying with no resurrection but the idea of no resurrection has been always able to convince me more than the heaven which is more for me something people invented to be able to convince poor people and make them satisfied because
the idea of a god who knows what you are going to do is not convincing,alsdo I cant beleive I do taboo stuff because of the devil,I just do it because I want to
however I wont be an athiest until science provide an idea about pre big bang universe,theists respond to this point is that the prescence of god makes him above all laws of physics,mathematics but that cannot convince me,in fact nothing has convinced me at all and the only thing I know is that I know nothing
I have been a muslim,I will try to keep on praying and fasting but will try to enjoy my life away from the restricted muslim life(no alchols,no sex,etc,..
I respect that :tup:
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,124
I want to beleive in god and I beleive most people want to,the idea of a place being better than where we live now is tempting and for sure is better than just dying with no resurrection but the idea of no resurrection has been always able to convince me more than the heaven which is more for me something people invented to be able to convince poor people and make them satisfied because
the idea of a god who knows what you are going to do is not convincing,alsdo I cant beleive I do taboo stuff because of the devil,I just do it because I want to
however I wont be an athiest until science provide an idea about pre big bang universe,theists respond to this point is that the prescence of god makes him above all laws of physics,mathematics but that cannot convince me,in fact nothing has convinced me at all and the only thing I know is that I know nothing
I have been a muslim,I will try to keep on praying and fasting but will try to enjoy my life away from the restricted muslim life(no alchols,no sex,etc,..
My friend just because we believers believe it doesn't mean we follow the path perfectly. We have doubts and dry spells , we question dogma or doctrine but in the end there is something inside that affirms our belief in diety. its easier being an atheist than a believer keep the faith
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
You see I was going to say I have never seen Trequartista's brain so there is no proof he has a brain, but being a theist, I was trying to be kind and so I used "my friend". But obviously atheists are always looking for something to react on :)
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,868
You see I was going to say I have never seen Trequartista's brain so there is no proof he has a brain, but being a theist, I was trying to be kind and so I used "my friend". But obviously atheists are always looking for something to react on :)
It's hard not to react to someone calling it "blind faith" that we automatically presume that everyone around us has a brain. To what extent it's in function is debatable, especially after seeing you post.
 

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