Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

Lets just get one thing straight here. Accepting the big bang theory as an explanation for how the Universe came to be is still rooted in belief. It just happens that some of the aspects of that belief can be backed up with certain facts. But nonetheless, it still leaves heaps of questions unanswered as the theory isn't complete yet.
A useful way of explaining this is referring to the theory of Evolution. Evolution is a fact, but the theory of Evolution is our way of rationalising the natural processes which occur around us.

Now if you put the theory of an intelligent creator up against the theory of the big bang, the logical point of view is to stand on the side of the big bang theory - simply because it's the theory with most facts backing it up. You could also chose to disregard both theories and be undecided, but I have still to come up against one sound argument as to why it is an intelligent creator behind it all.

 

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[Nzoric]

Repeating it doesn't make it true.

No it is a no-brainer. It literally requires whoever believes in it to shut down their brain and stop using it to accept it. By any standard of what we think we know today, that belief is irrational. The next step for a theist is of course to point out the "what we think we know today" part of my post, but by that they're making the same old mistake of thinking they are smarter than anyone else. Physics and chemistry has proved itself to work, therefore going that road really makes them sound ignorant.

 

[K.O.]

Who created the laws of physics and chemistry?

 

[Nzoric]

Who created the laws of physics and chemistry?

Wow, understand much? The written laws of physics and chemistry is our way to explain what is actually going on. Why does someone have to create it, once you get over the stumbling block that everything has to be designed and created you'll get it.

 

[K.O.]

I can't get over it to be honest.

 

[Nzoric]

Then dont, fuck you troll.

 

[K.O.]

Calm down.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Who created the laws of physics and chemistry?

The primary problem here is the question you ask. By asking who, you are rejecting the notion that anything other than a living organism has created those rules.

But honestly, I do not know. And I don't think anyone knows the answer to that right now.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I was going to say something but deneb is doing spectacular job

 

[JUVEMAN1211]

BOOBIES

 

[AndreaCristiano]

BOOBIES

Thanks for the intelligent contributions

 

[JUVEMAN1211]

God told me to write it

 

[AndreaCristiano]

God told me to write it

Very mature
The adults are talking why don't you go back to the kids table with your sippy cup

 

[Nzoric]

Calm down.

No.

 

[JUVEMAN1211]

Very mature
The adults are talking why don't you go back to the kids table with your sippy cup

Lol calm down you big baby. I stated my beliefs above and Im just amused at the fact that this thread is going in circles.

 

[K.O.]

No.

Tough boy, I bet you cry yourself to sleep every night asking yourself if there's a god or not.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Lol calm down you big baby. I stated my beliefs above and Im just amused at the fact that this thread is going in circles.

I'm not being a baby man this discussion was going well and dropping little crap like that will make it take off in a bad way

 

[ALC]

It doesn't matter if God exists or not, all that matters is that he hates Thierry Henry.

Spoiler

 

[Trequartista]

There is one thing that I find quite interesting about some theists is that they believe so much that their beliefs are true that they will never recognize that their arguments are fallacious when an atheist clearly points it out.

Oh, and the theists' favorite tool: Circular reasoning.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I was going to say something but deneb is doing spectacular job

what did i do this time