Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (27 Viewers)

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Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Juventino[RUS];3788402 said:


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keep talkin' god's son, oh satan and stalin will have a lot of fun with you in hell :toast: even jesus will not help you :(

A blowjob is sodomy, which by definition is any sexual act performed for any reason by procreation en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy , and the bible forbids sodomy.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
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A blowjob is sodomy, which by definition is any sexual act performed for any reason by procreation en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy , and the bible forbids sodomy.
Depends on the legal definition in the country in question, any definition taken from Religion is invalid, only the law counts.

In the UK and Ireland it meant 'any sexual activity between two males' and at one time between men and animals...
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Juventino[RUS];3786081 said:
yes, but the main measure for the time is solar day so if you know what i'm talkin' about you should know that the duration of the day on other planets is not the same that we have here - on Jupiter its around 10 hours, on Venus it's 116 days per 1 solar day due planet rotation in the opposite direction. Do you know that human weight is different on the Earth and in the space? it was god idea too? I tell you one more thing, if we will build railroad around the Earth and run a train on it with light speed (300.000 km/sec) only 1 minute ride on that train will be equal to 100 years of ordinary life, it's amazing
RUS dropping the knowledge.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Depends on the legal definition in the country in question, any definition taken from Religion is invalid, only the law counts.

In the UK and Ireland it meant 'any sexual activity between two males' and at one time between men and animals...
Stop seeing everything from the viewpoint of a lawyer. Law is only one way to see things. Right now we are in a completely different realm. Law is irrelevant. Don't even try to bring up the age old discussion of God's or King's rule. In case of a conflict between the two, every man has to chose for himself. If we are talking about religious, christian rules, the only instrument that can give a definition of sodomy is the Bible.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Stop seeing everything from the viewpoint of a lawyer. Law is only one way to see things. Right now we are in a completely different realm. Law is irrelevant. Don't even try to bring up the age old discussion of God's or King's rule. In case of a conflict between the two, every man has to chose for himself. If we are talking about religious, christian rules, the only instrument that can give a definition of sodomy is the Bible.
his viewpoint as a lawyer is easy to defend in this discussion. The Old Testament is basically a set of laws, written down to define what was considered proper and unproper in the context of that day and age. The New Testament is also full of guidelines regarding behavior, morality and ethics. From my own point of view, soon to be historian, religious doctrines and texts are nothing but expressions of proper morality and an attempt at mass control from different periods of time.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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his viewpoint as a lawyer is easy to defend in this discussion. The Old Testament is basically a set of laws, written down to define what was considered proper and unproper in the context of that day and age. The New Testament is also full of guidelines regarding behavior, morality and ethics. From my own point of view, soon to be historian, religious doctrines and texts are nothing but expressions of proper morality and an attempt at mass control from different periods of time.
Be a better historian. That is what religion is to you (and me). The viewpoint of someone who is religious is very different and thus sodomy can be defined by religious rules.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Depends on the legal definition in the country in question, any definition taken from Religion is invalid, only the law counts.

In the UK and Ireland it meant 'any sexual activity between two males' and at one time between men and animals...
I'm essentially just repeating seven but I took that picture in the context of an anti-religious protest - claiming that christian's are hypocrites, I was correcting them. It wasn't about legality.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Number of atheists around the world is rising

According to the latest global poll released by RedC Opinion Poll, part of WIN-Gallup International, a world-wide network of leading opinion pollsters, the number of self-declared atheists in the world has risen by 9% since the measure was last taken in 2005.

The massive poll, conducted in 57 countries (not, apparently, including Britain) among 51,000 people asked a single question "Irrespective of whether you attend a place of worship or not, would you say you are a religious person, not a religious person or a convinced atheist?"

It shows that on average 59% of the world said that they think of themselves as religious, whereas 23% think of themselves as not religious and 13% think of themselves as convinced atheists. Naturally there are enormous variations from country to country.

The countries with most self-described atheists are China (47%); Japan (31%), Czech Republic (30%), France (29%), South Korea (15%), Germany (15%), Netherlands (14%), Austria (10%), Iceland (10%), Australia (10%) and Ireland (10%).
The most religious countries are: Ghana (where 96% of people define themselves as religious), Nigeria (93%), Armenia (92%), Fiji (92%), Macedonia (90%), Romania (89%), Iraq (88%), Kenya (88%), Peru (86%) and Brazil (85%).

One of the most dramatic reductions in the proportion of the population considering themselves religious occurred in Ireland: from 69% in 2005 to 47% in 2012, placing Ireland on the index of religious belief at position 43 out of 57 countries.

The poll also showed that the poorer people were, the more likely they were to be religious.

One anomaly that the pollsters have themselves questioned is in Turkey, where those who say they are religious is only 23% while those defining themselves as non-religious is 73% (self-defined atheists 2%).

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/08/number-of-atheists-around-the-world-is-rising
 

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