Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

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ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Maybe because it gives them hope and it's one off a supply unlike food which is difficult to keep in supply constantly. I don't see anywhere where it says that should be given over food, water etc. There are plenty of causes that give that. Some atheist arguments are really flawed.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Maybe because it gives them hope and it's one off a supply unlike food which is difficult to keep in supply constantly. I don't see anywhere where it says that should be given over food, water etc. There are plenty of causes that give that. Some atheist arguments are really flawed.
The last time I checked, people curb their hunger by eating food, not by hoping that they'll get food. It's the same reason why school and office cafeteria's serve food and not the Bible.

But don't listen to me; my arguments are flawed. :boh:
 

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Man all those impoverished children are going to be so pissed when they open their care package and it's fucking bibles :lol:

Like that money could have easily been spent on something practical, to improve their lives, but no they get trolled so hard by the West. It's a slap in the face.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Agreed although they will never admit that
This, a lot have simple problems admitting they are/were wrong.

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The last time I checked, people curb their hunger by eating food, not by hoping that they'll get food. It's the same reason why school and office cafeteria's serve food and not the Bible.

But don't listen to me; my arguments are flawed. :boh:
How about you read my post again and then try again.

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How do you even know they are starving anyway? They could already have food provided for them.
 

ZoSo

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OK. There are far more things that are essential to leading a good, normal life than a holy book. Food, shelter, clothing, education and a safe and stable society are all far more essential for poverty-stricken people. None of which any holy book can provide, let alone the Bible.
There are plenty of causes that give food, water, medicine etc and no one is forcing anyone to give to this charity or cause instead. But as an atheist you wouldn't understand that the Bible can give hope to people and make their day brighter instead of being depressed or sad. And it says no one in that picture that those kids are starving or aren't being educated. In fact, the fact that they are reading would lead one to believe that they are being educated and therefore are being supported ok.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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There are plenty of causes that give food, water, medicine etc and no one is forcing anyone to give to this charity or cause instead. But as an atheist you wouldn't understand that the Bible can give hope to people and make their day brighter instead of being depressed or sad. And it says no one in that picture that those kids are starving or aren't being educated. In fact, the fact that they are reading would lead one to believe that they are being educated and therefore are being supported ok.
I would argue that the Bible is not the only source of hope. I'm sure that our history has provided many real stories that may make such people hope for a better future. I would also argue that they could potentially be false hopes because the promise is salvation is unverifiable. Since these claims are to be taken on faith and not evidence, it's unbelievable.

Also, I think you're being very naive to assume that the picture used accurately portrays the true living conditions there. That picture is used for marketing. That picture is deliberately used to paint a picture to the viewer of how they kids will be when they get the Bible they're supposedly paying for. You shouldn't be taking the scenario depicted in that picture as reality.

PS: BTW, that post doesn't really give a proper description of where the bibles will be sent to, and what the current situation in that place is. So it's not right to assume that they're already being provided with food, water, medicine, education, etc.
 

ZoSo

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I would argue that the Bible is not the only source of hope. I'm sure that our history has provided many real stories that may make such people hope for a better future. I would also argue that they could potentially be false hopes because the promise is salvation is unverifiable. Since these claims are to be taken on faith and not evidence, it's unbelievable.

Also, I think you're being very naive to assume that the picture used accurately portrays the true living conditions there. That picture is used for marketing. That picture is deliberately used to paint a picture to the viewer of how they kids will be when they get the Bible they're supposedly paying for. You shouldn't be taking the scenario depicted in that picture as reality.

PS: BTW, that post doesn't really give a proper description of where the bibles will be sent to, and what the current situation in that place is. So it's not right to assume that they're already being provided with food, water, medicine, education, etc.
It doesn't matter if it's the only source of hope or not and whether or not it's 'false hope'. You need to stop arguing the little things and look at the bigger picture.


PS: You also can't assume they aren't being provided with food, water etc just as the caption on the side says. That just flaws your whole argument.

I've already said everything else I needed to say about it.
 

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