Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (33 Viewers)

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Jesus supporters as you put it. Who mock others aren't good Jesus supporters possibly not even real supporters PS they are called Christians

Aah... the good ol' 'Not a true Scotsman' fallacy.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

And thanks to *aca*, I shall present this to anyone who says religious people are moral.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Jesus supporters as you put it. Who mock others aren't good Jesus supporters possibly not even real supporters PS they are called Christians

They would call themselves Christians. Jesus is their favourite god, so they qualify.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

They would call themselves Christians. Jesus is their favourite god, so they qualify.

People call themselves alot of things doesn't make it so. Its easy to profess Christ with your lips harder to do with your heart and actions.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

People call themselves alot of things doesn't make it so. Its easy to profess Christ with your lips harder to do with your heart and actions.

So where do they go to find out how Christian they are?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

And thanks to *aca*, I shall present this to anyone who says religious people are moral.

http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

Obviously not very religious or shall I say faithful to their religion

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

People call themselves alot of things doesn't make it so. Its easy to profess Christ with your lips harder to do with your heart and actions.

Obviously not very religious or shall I say faithful to their religion

'Not a true Scotsman' fallacy.

BTW, it's still proof that religious morals do not work.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

'Not a true Scotsman' fallacy.

BTW, it's still proof that religious morals do not work.

No its not. If one chooses not to follow the morals but says he is moral or religious then he or she is a hypocrite. True religious who follow their moral edicts it does work

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No its not. If one chooses not to follow the morals but says he is moral or religious then he or she is a hypocrite. True religious who follow their moral edicts it does work

Still reinforces my opinion that good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things despite religion.

 

[JuveJay]

Close thread tomorrow.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Close thread tomorrow.

 

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Personally, i show respect to all people, but never to any religion. Religion demand respect and authority because it proclaims itself as holy, and I'm not buying that. I'll treat them as just another book until someone can demonstrate the holiness of the books.

@Golazo: i see what you mean, and i have only one question to all: why just one book? Why do you want to gain inspiration from just one book when there's similar stories in most religious books? Why not read the Bhagavat Gita as well?

- then you don't respect the majority of humanity

 

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I'd rather be moral because I chose that it is right instead of being moral because I'm a coward.

Judging by your love to ridicule, I guess you've chosen to not be moral at this stage in your life

 

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He was, though.


I have hope - in myself.

Nothing to offer?

Jesus supporters "mock" others too.

Nzoric is a man of principles.
But religion is silly.

He was an active member of society, not a politician. He did not at any stage in his life try to take power in any way, shape or form.

Religion is benevolent. Atheism is law of the jungle, survival of the fittest.

 

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Oh well, one could argue that Christianity has plagued (I chose that word) Western Europe for so long, that Christian morals have indeed become basic morals upon which the society functions. Now if Christian moral is the basic moral of the society, and there is so much amorality amok - isn't it Christian amorality?

Dude, pleeeaaasse ! Where is the logic in what you're saying? Today, Western Europe is the bastion of Atheism around the world.

 

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Still reinforces my opinion that good people will do good things and evil people will do evil things despite religion.

Just because one doesn't follow a religion it doesn't automatically make them bad. But one that seriously follows a religion is much more encouraged and has much more reason to do good and show benevolence, love and respect to his fellow man,

You were born healthy, with intellect, and with many abilities. Did you choose these things? No. You need to show thanks for these things.

 

[JuveJay]

Someone stop this guy, he's on the warpath.

 

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Someone stop this guy, he's on the warpath.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Religion is benevolent. Atheism is law of the jungle, survival of the fittest.

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