I am pretty sure they can recognize if the person is safe to handle a gun, but the question is, do their chiefs want safe ones? or psychos who can finish the business the way they want it sometimes 
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what you mean with retarded children too, oh boy, another scary thoughts coming, I hope I got you wrong there.. Maybe everything is not about being superiority, maybe it is unconditional love, is that impossible? can't humans love unconditionally? without expecting something in return? I feel sick for telling this, but I am generous with people too, to ones I know or I don't, multiple times I helped poor people, without showing myself, so they won't feel ashamed of taking the help, or feel themselves they owe me something. Is that something to do with insecurity too? I love helping the weak ones, it's true, but I didn't get this pet because it's week, because I wanted to live with it. And you really don't know how much a sacrifice pets need to raise them. And I am not scared at all if it hurts me back one day (even if this is not the human hurting you are talking about), and if it does hurt me one day, or one of my family member, I will take the responsibility and won't abandon her, would do my best to teach her the right way. You are way mistaken if you think it is very easy to raise a pet and giving up of it if anything goes wrong..
again, how do you know that I don't care about humans also? there are millions of examples you can find in here. what are you bringing this comparison anyway, two different subject, being sensitive to animals makes one not sensitive against humans? I don't see a bit of connection in here.. You gave example of your mother, did she run off of the responsibility in raising and defending you when it was needed?
I felt the same way about he first clip, when they were disrespecting her with taking of her clothes, it was disgusting, but I have seen much worse torture that drove me nuts too, for that I didn't comment.. and the I watched the third clip. when an animal was being tortured or got killed. These are the two clips I saw, and commented on the one that drove me nuts. By the way, why are you arguing about me in person, and not about the idea of how wrong it is to torture and kill animals, am I the subject here?
I didn't prove your point, actually you proved me that you are not getting it. Humans are not superiors to animals, and this is a general statement, notice the word, general. I would feel more sorry if my cat dies, instead of someone in China or France or Armenia. Do you know what I mean? or you think I should cry over people that dies every second, and I shouldn't feel anything if the cats I raised for 5 years die?
again, how do you know that I don't care about humans also? there are millions of examples you can find in here. what are you bringing this comparison anyway, two different subject, being sensitive to animals makes one not sensitive against humans? I don't see a bit of connection in here.. You gave example of your mother, did she run off of the responsibility in raising and defending you when it was needed?
I felt the same way about he first clip, when they were disrespecting her with taking of her clothes, it was disgusting, but I have seen much worse torture that drove me nuts too, for that I didn't comment.. and the I watched the third clip. when an animal was being tortured or got killed. These are the two clips I saw, and commented on the one that drove me nuts. By the way, why are you arguing about me in person, and not about the idea of how wrong it is to torture and kill animals, am I the subject here?
I didn't prove your point, actually you proved me that you are not getting it. Humans are not superiors to animals, and this is a general statement, notice the word, general. I would feel more sorry if my cat dies, instead of someone in China or France or Armenia. Do you know what I mean? or you think I should cry over people that dies every second, and I shouldn't feel anything if the cats I raised for 5 years die?
Animals have no concept what love is anymore than Elvin has a concept of what love means with women.
That's cool. I've helped people without their knowing because I knew it was important to their pride, etc.
But you clearly have an emotional reaction to animal torture that you don't have for human torture. It's that bias that saddens me in the world, because it suggests that there are people who place a higher value on an animal's life than a human's life. I am not even talking about equivalency or equality. It's about an animal being more important than a person.
But a pet or animal simply cannot make a human vulnerable the way another human being can. They don't even have legal rights in the same plane of existence.
Each human has good and bad qualities as we perceive it. And we are often associate our sense of good or evil on a person based upon our expectations thrust upon them. Animals have no such expectations. Animals have no such cognitive abilities nor legal rights.
Not saying that you don't care for humans. But your heart clearly bleeds more for animals than it does for people.
It proves my point because a cat cannot train another dog to attack its owner. It cannot rifle through your wallet and mug you on a sidewalk when it needs cash. It cannot fail to live up to your expectations the way humans can, because you don't give it the expectations that you put upon other humans.
This wasn't about your cat dying, Snoop. This was about videos of people being abused by cops. What stood out wasn't that, but the animal that got abused -- the human victims seeming of much less consequence to you. That's the bias. That's the disproportionate reaction. That's the greater empathy for animal suffering than for human suffering. It's as if a part of someone who does that holds back, as if the human somehow "deserves it" more because they have a greater likelihood of doing evil, of not living up to the expectations of others, that a basic animal can't do.
That's cool. I've helped people without their knowing because I knew it was important to their pride, etc.
But you clearly have an emotional reaction to animal torture that you don't have for human torture. It's that bias that saddens me in the world, because it suggests that there are people who place a higher value on an animal's life than a human's life. I am not even talking about equivalency or equality. It's about an animal being more important than a person.
But a pet or animal simply cannot make a human vulnerable the way another human being can. They don't even have legal rights in the same plane of existence.
Each human has good and bad qualities as we perceive it. And we are often associate our sense of good or evil on a person based upon our expectations thrust upon them. Animals have no such expectations. Animals have no such cognitive abilities nor legal rights.
Not saying that you don't care for humans. But your heart clearly bleeds more for animals than it does for people.
I didn't prove your point, actually you proved me that you are not getting it. Humans are not superiors to animals, and this is a general statement, notice the word, general. I would feel more sorry if my cat dies, instead of someone in China or France or Armenia. Do you know what I mean? or you think I should cry over people that dies every second, and I shouldn't feel anything if the cats I raised for 5 years die?
This wasn't about your cat dying, Snoop. This was about videos of people being abused by cops. What stood out wasn't that, but the animal that got abused -- the human victims seeming of much less consequence to you. That's the bias. That's the disproportionate reaction. That's the greater empathy for animal suffering than for human suffering. It's as if a part of someone who does that holds back, as if the human somehow "deserves it" more because they have a greater likelihood of doing evil, of not living up to the expectations of others, that a basic animal can't do.
I think you've lived a poor life without experiencing a pet, Greg. That's a shame. You don't seem able to relate.
If I had to pull the trigger against my dog or you, I'm choosing you, no question. Nothing personal, but you aren't part of the family. Who cares if you're a human being? Your life is worth less to everyone who doesn't know you and has a family pet.
If I had to pull the trigger against my dog or you, I'm choosing you, no question. Nothing personal, but you aren't part of the family. Who cares if you're a human being? Your life is worth less to everyone who doesn't know you and has a family pet.
But you don't care about anonymous people anyway, Greg. Why are you better than folks who feel sympathy for lost pets? Don't be a hypocrite, now.
I think any rational person has sympathy to any lost loved one, whether it be human or canine. This whole "it's a lesser being than you" argument you're purporting is incredibly idiotic because those children you care so much about are even more controllable than a canine. So you defeated your own argument.
I think any rational person has sympathy to any lost loved one, whether it be human or canine. This whole "it's a lesser being than you" argument you're purporting is incredibly idiotic because those children you care so much about are even more controllable than a canine. So you defeated your own argument.
you are mistaken! small example, when I travel to somewhere for a week, my cat feels very sad, she doesn't eat or play, and cries all the time, and don't worry, my mother loves her as much as I do, and treats her like a princess. I should record some clips, to show you how animals can love humans, I knew you wouldn't understand this, because you don't love them, didn't have the experience..
you are mistaken again, when I was watching Egyptian incidents (demonstrations), do you remember there was a white van, that drove over people and killed them. I cried like little girls when I saw that, and it drove me nuts, and couldn't take that picture of my mind for days.. I try to avoid watching these videos, human or animals' tortures, because it saddens me, and watching and crying over it doesn't help them or solve this issues, it only makes me angry towards some people's inhumanity..
It's not true, even if it was, there is nothing wrong or any harm in that. But no, my heart bleeds equally for both..
Wait a minute, I never said anything like that. You got it wrong, I didn't compare my cat to victims in these clips. I compared my cat's life to those two cops that killed the dog. and I am not generalizing like you did, I talk about those two cops, and didn't say we humans deserve to get tortured because some of us are evil or torture animals.. That's something stupid. When I say animals are better than humans, that means in terms of behavior, they are not evil! and I said it million times, I see both equally in terms of rights (to survive). You are putting me in a position that I hate humans and love animals only, it's not true, and I find it funny to defend myself in that argument.
you are mistaken again, when I was watching Egyptian incidents (demonstrations), do you remember there was a white van, that drove over people and killed them. I cried like little girls when I saw that, and it drove me nuts, and couldn't take that picture of my mind for days.. I try to avoid watching these videos, human or animals' tortures, because it saddens me, and watching and crying over it doesn't help them or solve this issues, it only makes me angry towards some people's inhumanity..
It's not true, even if it was, there is nothing wrong or any harm in that. But no, my heart bleeds equally for both..
Wait a minute, I never said anything like that. You got it wrong, I didn't compare my cat to victims in these clips. I compared my cat's life to those two cops that killed the dog. and I am not generalizing like you did, I talk about those two cops, and didn't say we humans deserve to get tortured because some of us are evil or torture animals.. That's something stupid. When I say animals are better than humans, that means in terms of behavior, they are not evil! and I said it million times, I see both equally in terms of rights (to survive). You are putting me in a position that I hate humans and love animals only, it's not true, and I find it funny to defend myself in that argument.
