Diego, Silva or Ribéry? (7 Viewers)

[Bozi]

dunno. jus hate dat guy too much. if diego doesn't come for some other reason also secco reamins cheif culprit for me. this diego deal shuld've been sealed last summer.
considerin juve playin CL this season we needed him badly this season

again, what is Secco does everything right, meets the player and his agent(dad) works out a contract agreement and agrees a deal with Werder but the player himself holds out to move to Real?
that cannot be Secco's fault, no matter how much you want it to be

The last I read about the Diego situation was that we are due to meet his father and Bremen at the end of this month, in order to iron out a move or scrap it. I get the impression that Secco wants to get this deal done before the end of the season, so as to avoid a bidding war in which we will certainly lose if Madrid, Inter, Man United, Milan or Barca get involved...Still, there is a part of me, perhaps childishly romantic, which feels that Ribery wants to follow in the footsteps of Zizou and Platini.

Ramon Calderon has claimed that there is a definite agreement with Real Madrid and Christiano ronaldo for a transfer this summer. i reckon that will halt any Ribery deal and if we are to move for him,well,we better set the wheels in motion before manure get spending money.



but it's NOT going to happen :down:

 

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[Tommy]

jus hope dat Diego comes

 

[Lo-Pan]

If Calderon's claim is true, I agree with you mate, that our chances or grabbing Ribery will be dead in the water. Which would be a shame, but I will be happy to have him in England at Man U, when I return there towards the end of this year. Of all the teams in England, Man U are by far the finest to watch. Perhaps much of that is due to my adoration for Rooney...but the half of me which flows with british blood can do nothing other than revere the greatest talent to appear in the anglo ranks since I have been following football. Rooney is a King. And he is the one player I would sign for Juve were I given the choice of any player in the world. I have never thought about it before, but a front line of Rooney, Amauri with Giovinco behind them would be unstoppable, unplayable, for most teams.

Whether we get Silva, Diego or Ribery, I will be happy. Because all three have the potential to improve our first team dramatically.

 

[Bozi]

the greatest talent that england has produced? man i know you like a smoke but lay off that shit for a while!

seriously i rate Gerrard higher than the troglodyte

 

[Lo-Pan]

the greatest talent that england has produced? man i know you like a smoke but lay off that shit for a while!

seriously i rate Gerrard higher than the troglodyte

That made me chuckle a little, mate...And I wish it was true, that my mind was so cocooned in a warm haze of Kush or blueberry smoke that I had little to no understanding of the reality shared by the majority. But alas, it ain't so. I rarely toke these days. My main poison is fine dark rum...
but back to the football.

Gerrard is more accomplished, less injury prone, but also older. The scouse dynamo is indeed, on his game, one of the world's finest players, but if I am gauging solely talent alone, Rooney outshines him. Because his passing and vision is equal or better, he is as fast, probably a little stronger, and his shooting range is wider and more accurate. I have seen Gerrard perform poorly more often than I have seen Rooney perform poorly. And that isn't exclusively due to their ages and amount of games played in the top flight.

I hate liverpool, I always have done. But this hatred has grown unbearably strong since Benitez arrived. My most hated manager at my most hated team. Its a perfect nightmare. As a neutral, when I see Man U battling Chelsea, and Arsenal, going further back, I enjoy the competition, but when Liverpool are involved, I support any team against them. There is something about Liverpool, the recent of the last decade liverpool, which reminds me of the evil rabbits in Watership Down...Especially when they had Hamann, Riese, Murphy...their eyes are too close together and their countenances more rat than homosap...perhaps my opinion of Stevie Gerrard is influenced by this contempt, this rabid rancour...Still, I'd take Rooney over Gerrard, every time. But I don't despise Gerrard, as I do his team-mates and manager. I just wish he didn't bottle so many games for country.

 

[Bozi]

see the problem i have with rooney is he is erratic, he goes 10-11 games without scoring then suddenly scores a rake of goals in a few games, then back to not scoring. that would be fine as his all-round play is generally good but the thing that lets him down in my estimation is that damned mentality of his.
rooney is, by all intents and purposes,a spoilt brat a thug when things don't go his way and a complete cock when things are going right. his lack of class always lowers him in my estimation, no doubting his talent but the man is a cunt

 

[icemaη]

and looks the part too

 

[Lo-Pan]

see the problem i have with rooney is he is erratic, he goes 10-11 games without scoring then suddenly scores a rake of goals in a few games, then back to not scoring. that would be fine as his all-round play is generally good but the thing that lets him down in my estimation is that damned mentality of his.
rooney is, by all intents and purposes,a spoilt brat a thug when things don't go his way and a complete cock when things are going right. his lack of class always lowers him in my estimation, no doubting his talent but the man is a cunt

Hohoho! Your bitterness towards the toxteth terror seems on par with my animosity towards anfield...though, I find it hard to disagree with much of that other than the spoiled brat slur.

He is indeed a vicious thug, and were he not a footballer, or a boxer, he would no doubt be in jail by now...I think much of his failure to shine consistently at Man U is down to Ronaldo. Ever since that fucker got him sent off, and Fergie made them hug, kiss and write poetry together, for the sake of the team, he has suffered from collapses from Stunning to Average, form wise...I think its a mental problem. He is playing for one of the greatest teams in the world, but he is forced to play alongside someone who his instincts still to this day, must often flare up and say FUCKING HAVE HIM, BABES!...perhaps not those words, but you get my meaning. Those two are so separate as human beings, as men, that to add in the sending off, killed any chance of friendship on or off the pitch. He doesn't like being in Ronaldo's shadow. And it will be good for Rooney and for England if the Portuguese Ponce leaves, and heads to spain, where diving, arrogant ponces are revered as Man Gods...I hate Ronaldo. And while I can see what you are saying about Rooney, he has more class than that swine...

 

[Bozi]

oh i don't doubt Rooneys animosity towards Ronaldo, though it is slightly misplaced as Ronaldo didn't get Rooney sent off, Rooney standing on another players nads got Rooney sent off. though as you say i doubt that Rooney has the cranial matter to work that out.
if rooney could consistently score goals and not go through so many mini-droughts then there would be no doubting the man, but, the top players are consistently effective and rooney throws the toys out of the pram far too often and lets his game be affected by trivial matter.

but yes, i do dislike manure very much and maybe my judgment is clouded, but, i hate Inter and know that Zlatan is a terrific player, i hate barca but would love Xavi to be one of my players, i despise Real but acknowledge the importance of Raul.


i just hate that mammoth chasing caveman,but that could just be because i am scottish:wink:

 

[DelSing]

First of all, i think we need to scrap away with our 442. In this tactic, we r too depended on both winger, if we r still to stick with 442, we not only to replace nedved, we also need to replace the right winger as well. Camo is good, but he is getting to much injury lately, and he is getting old, so is usesless to contiune with 442 if we only replace the left and we dont' replace the right. and deigo will not be suitable to this 442, he will end up like another tiago.

I wish we can employ a more compact center mid tactic, like the 4312, in our squad we have good defesive mid and center mid, in the likes of marchisio, sissoko, tiago, poulsen (tiago was a flop because he doesn't suit the 442 , we simply was looking at the wrong man in the first place, i think is not tiago's fault, if he doens't fit into a 442 then why should we buy him, we need to ask our secco) these player can combine for a good 3 mid. we then can use the resource to buy a trequartistas like diego, and split up the playing of del pieor for giovinco(sorry DP i'm a big fan of you, i'm a fan of juve because of you, but he doesnt have the energy to perofrm wk in wk out, he should act in role like what giggs is doing now)

In this system we need to improve our side back as they need to come up to spread out the field when we attack.

Lastly we need another world class center bk to parnter chiellini.

From the game of bologna , we can see that giovinco was given a more all att instruction after the break when poulsen replace tiago, he doesn't need to come bk to help out the def with poulsen marchisio saliham was the 3 mid doing the dirty work, and we can see our team r totally different team. And in the chelsea's game we can see that the 3 mid works very well, and tiago was fantastic with his passing and vision.

lets look bk to our glory days going to the CL final 3 season consecutively. is been 10yrs, we last touch teh CL. Bk then we dont' have a team of 11 starter of world class player, we still winning everything with the like of torricelli, pessotto, iuliano, brinidelli, tacchinardi ,

lets face it , we dont' have the suitable players for 442 anymore, (before we have nedved and camo playing at top level and thats why we hire ranieri and he was able to play his favorite 442) if we r to win something next year our management got to start thinking if we r going to stick with our 442 and buy enuf play to suit the formation and ranieir or name another coach thats works better on a 4312 formation.

I have great respect for ranieri, he is a good coach, but his 442 can only win use trophy if we have world class wingers on both side. otherwise we will end up empty hand again. and thats why he never win major trophy because all the team he manage before doesnt' have world class winger. In chelsea, he only got zeden Grønkjær duff, in valencia he dump aimar in order to play his 442 , which he totally mess up and got fire after a year .

no more 442 plzzzzzz

 

[neurosis21]

really rooney a top player??
sorry but for me he isnt.they guy first of all doesnt know which his natural position is and cant stick to doin smth specific on the field
an attacker that goes oftenly 10+ games to scorer is simply not a really attacker. then when united used to play with his as a lone forward upfront,he used(Still does) to drop into mid to organise play, well thats not ur job, leave that to scholes,anderson carrick etc
hes way overzealous and runs everywhere sometimes without a purpose or an end product. although showing this much commitment is not bad.

hes a good player,but for me its just that. good not great

 

[Bozi]

@delsing-our pressing need is not for another Cb but at least 1 quality FB(preference is RB) and a midfielder who can pass teh ball. a change of formation would be good but i cannot see it happening under this coach

 

[DelSing]

@delsing-our pressing need is not for another Cb but at least 1 quality FB(preference is RB) and a midfielder who can pass teh ball. a change of formation would be good but i cannot see it happening under this coach

I agree with u we need a FB(rb especially), as in my suggested 4321, we need better FB also

and we need a CB also, we lost teh ground after christmas because chiellini was injured and we can see thats a problem, with lego aging, is a bad sign, just wonder hows our andrade doing hahaha was a shame, $10m pound into water , fuxkk

also agree with you we need a mid who can pass the ball, we need a all round mid to suit this ugly 442, so many game this year, once opposition press us in our def zone, we keep losing possesion, and lost our creativity. again stupid secco, i think poulsen was given 2 much criticism, since he is totally not the type of player we need, Secco keeps buying players that doesn't fit into this 442, on the other hand, the juve management keep trusting on his 442, very contradiction.

yes i dont' see ranieri going to change his 442 also damn it. he still got another year left in his contract, and i dont' see juve goign to fire him and pay him out the rest of the contract and hire a new manager. wish some other team come in and sign him away hahha

 

[Lo-Pan]

really rooney a top player??
sorry but for me he isnt.they guy first of all doesnt know which his natural position is and cant stick to doin smth specific on the field
an attacker that goes oftenly 10+ games to scorer is simply not a really attacker. then when united used to play with his as a lone forward upfront,he used(Still does) to drop into mid to organise play, well thats not ur job, leave that to scholes,anderson carrick etc
hes way overzealous and runs everywhere sometimes without a purpose or an end product. although showing this much commitment is not bad.

hes a good player,but for me its just that. good not great

I think 62 goals in 148 games (at United) is a very good goals to game ratio when he is playing at a club where he is one of several players charged with getting the goals. It would be interesting to see how many assists he has made in the same period for United. Especially when he is one part of a Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov attacking quartet. His duties are rarely solely goal scoring...his passing for a forward is phenomenal.

He plays where Ferguson tells hm to play. Its not a case of Rooney himself not knowing his ideal position. And as for his tendency to drop back into midfield, and try to create the play...his passing range is as good as any of our midfielders at Juve, yet he is a striker. Comparing him to our players isn't fun...his nearest counterpart in the juve team would be Amauri...but the brazillian is far less lethal than Rooney in front of goal, other than in the air.

His over zealous nature, as you put it, brings as much trouble as success. Taking that away from him though, takes some of his talent away from his performance. He knows where the goal is, and I don't know of many players in the world game, who have the same level of explosive talent that Rooney possesses in spades...For 23 years old, compared to others his age playing in the top flight of english, european and international football, rooney is more than merely 'a good player'. He will grow, develop and mature as a footballer, and I am sure that he will become, at some stage, consistently, one of the finest footballers on the world stage....

 

[v1rtu4l]

i must say that i was very impressed in man Us CL game against inter, when rooney played on the left and did actually even do the work for their left back, dispossessing maicon at the own penalty box and getting the ball forward

 

[Tommy]

i am supportin ManU now jus because they fucked inter

 

[CalcioJuventus]

That made me chuckle a little, mate...And I wish it was true, that my mind was so cocooned in a warm haze of Kush or blueberry smoke that I had little to no understanding of the reality shared by the majority. But alas, it ain't so. I rarely toke these days. My main poison is fine dark rum...
but back to the football.

Gerrard is more accomplished, less injury prone, but also older. The scouse dynamo is indeed, on his game, one of the world's finest players, but if I am gauging solely talent alone, Rooney outshines him. Because his passing and vision is equal or better, he is as fast, probably a little stronger, and his shooting range is wider and more accurate. I have seen Gerrard perform poorly more often than I have seen Rooney perform poorly. And that isn't exclusively due to their ages and amount of games played in the top flight.

I hate liverpool, I always have done. But this hatred has grown unbearably strong since Benitez arrived. My most hated manager at my most hated team. Its a perfect nightmare. As a neutral, when I see Man U battling Chelsea, and Arsenal, going further back, I enjoy the competition, but when Liverpool are involved, I support any team against them. There is something about Liverpool, the recent of the last decade liverpool, which reminds me of the evil rabbits in Watership Down...Especially when they had Hamann, Riese, Murphy...their eyes are too close together and their countenances more rat than homosap...perhaps my opinion of Stevie Gerrard is influenced by this contempt, this rabid rancour...Still, I'd take Rooney over Gerrard, every time. But I don't despise Gerrard, as I do his team-mates and manager. I just wish he didn't bottle so many games for country.

I love the way you talk for some reason.

I am not sure if Rooney is better than Gerrard but I would probably take Rooney as he is younger and I like the work he does on the pitch tracking back and what not. He is a very dangerous player and you are right he would go great with Giovinco at Juve but it is impossible. We need Cassano!

 

[Amaurisimo]

none of those 3 but

hm

 

[JCK]

The Sun

 

[CalcioJuventus]

Modric is sick. We should offer them Tiago or Poulsen or something Harry might do that given the crap level of his midfield.

But I have not heard much talk of Secco and them regarding Modric.