Diego Ribas da Cunha (26 Viewers)
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Oh well, regardless of the stupid road management has taken to get there, the correct decision has been made, and we can look forward with a little optimism.
I just hope now that they continue to make positive decisions and build a squad worthy of Juventus. One that has that never say die, winning mentality that Juve is famous for. I read that we now have the youngest squad in Serie A. That can go two ways, lets hope that it works for us and that we're building a team that will dominate for years to come.
I just hope now that they continue to make positive decisions and build a squad worthy of Juventus. One that has that never say die, winning mentality that Juve is famous for. I read that we now have the youngest squad in Serie A. That can go two ways, lets hope that it works for us and that we're building a team that will dominate for years to come.
Now I understand you're ridiculous statements. Obviously you struggle with the English language??? That's okay I wont hold it against you. I've picked out a few of your strange statements....
First point at what point did I say a player's value is based solely on nationality? I simply suggested that nationality plays a PART in the value of a player. The value of a player is made up of many different things, Age, Position, Experience, Ability, Records Fitness..... amongst many other factors. ONE OF THOSE FACTORS is Nationality. Maybe it's hard for you to understand context when English isn't your first language? I dunno
Luka Modric signed for Tottenham after having a great Euro championships and was the star man in a rising Croatian force. He signed for £16 million which is still less than what they paid for the Englishman Bent, who hadn't played at a major championships or established himself in his national team or a top side. If you compare Modric and Bent... Modric should have went for over 30 million if Darren Bent was considered to be worth that. A big part of Bent's inflation is because he's english. Argue that fact all you want but it has been debated and discussed a lot in this country and this is the general consesus. It's become accepted in this country that you pay a premium for english players. Modric's fee, however, was about right. I must state Bosnia are a small nation in footballing terms. Smaller than Croatia, smaller than Ivory Coast. Also at what point did Man Utd actually offer that or is that just rumour?
Another problem you have with context, by stating Diego was a Brazillian number 10 I wasn't talking about him literally being the number 10 for Brazil. You really need to read these things properly. Since he's been at Santos he's had the hype around him, the number 10 hype around him, these type of players suffer intense scrutiny and pressure which is only worse when you are Brazillian. You are built up by hype and then ripped to shreds if you don't cut it.
You have totally bypassed and failed to understand any point i've made. Then in doing so convinced yourself it is infact me who's being idiotic
You have failed to acknowledge Nationality as a factor in player value and also used this to get away from my main point that Dzeko is over-priced....Dzeko looks a great player, he has massive potential but the price Wolfsburg are commanding when you consider everything is ridiculous. You seem to be among the small few (is there anyone else here?) that believes he is worth 40 million euros? In the list of all time world record transfer fees that would place him at about 7 or 8. Can you honestly say Dzeko deserves to be in that company of players from what he's acheived so far in football and what Wolfsburg have acheived? You seem to think yes because he's scored 26 league goals and 22 league goals in consecutive seasons for Wolfsburg, some in europe and some for his national team in a valiant but failed attempt to reach the WC. Wolfsburg and Bosnia (who have a number of promising young players now) are a lot stronger than the one man teams you make them out to be. All great acheivments but he has a LONG way to go to be considered alongside the greats of world football
Now I understand you're ridiculous statements. Obviously you struggle with the English language??? That's okay I wont hold it against you. I've picked out a few of your strange statements....
First point at what point did I say a player's value is based solely on nationality? I simply suggested that nationality plays a PART in the value of a player. The value of a player is made up of many different things, Age, Position, Experience, Ability, Records Fitness..... amongst many other factors. ONE OF THOSE FACTORS is Nationality. Maybe it's hard for you to understand context when English isn't your first language? I dunno
Luka Modric signed for Tottenham after having a great Euro championships and was the star man in a rising Croatian force. He signed for £16 million which is still less than what they paid for the Englishman Bent, who hadn't played at a major championships or established himself in his national team or a top side. If you compare Modric and Bent... Modric should have went for over 30 million if Darren Bent was considered to be worth that. A big part of Bent's inflation is because he's english. Argue that fact all you want but it has been debated and discussed a lot in this country and this is the general consesus. It's become accepted in this country that you pay a premium for english players. Modric's fee, however, was about right. I must state Bosnia are a small nation in footballing terms. Smaller than Croatia, smaller than Ivory Coast. Also at what point did Man Utd actually offer that or is that just rumour?
Another problem you have with context, by stating Diego was a Brazillian number 10 I wasn't talking about him literally being the number 10 for Brazil. You really need to read these things properly. Since he's been at Santos he's had the hype around him, the number 10 hype around him, these type of players suffer intense scrutiny and pressure which is only worse when you are Brazillian. You are built up by hype and then ripped to shreds if you don't cut it.
You have totally bypassed and failed to understand any point i've made. Then in doing so convinced yourself it is infact me who's being idiotic You have failed to acknowledge Nationality as a factor in player value and also used this to get away from my main point that Dzeko is over-priced....
Dzeko looks a great player, he has massive potential but the price Wolfsburg are commanding when you consider everything is ridiculous. You seem to be among the small few (is there anyone else here?) that believes he is worth 40 million euros? In the list of all time world record transfer fees that would place him at about 7 or 8. Can you honestly say Dzeko deserves to be in that company of players from what he's acheived so far in football and what Wolfsburg have acheived? You seem to think yes because he's scored 26 league goals and 22 league goals in consecutive seasons for Wolfsburg, some in europe and some for his national team in a valiant but failed attempt to reach the WC. Wolfsburg and Bosnia (who have a number of promising young players now) are a lot stronger than the one man teams you make them out to be. All great acheivments but he has a LONG way to go to be considered alongside the greats of world football
First point at what point did I say a player's value is based solely on nationality? I simply suggested that nationality plays a PART in the value of a player. The value of a player is made up of many different things, Age, Position, Experience, Ability, Records Fitness..... amongst many other factors. ONE OF THOSE FACTORS is Nationality. Maybe it's hard for you to understand context when English isn't your first language? I dunno
Luka Modric signed for Tottenham after having a great Euro championships and was the star man in a rising Croatian force. He signed for £16 million which is still less than what they paid for the Englishman Bent, who hadn't played at a major championships or established himself in his national team or a top side. If you compare Modric and Bent... Modric should have went for over 30 million if Darren Bent was considered to be worth that. A big part of Bent's inflation is because he's english. Argue that fact all you want but it has been debated and discussed a lot in this country and this is the general consesus. It's become accepted in this country that you pay a premium for english players. Modric's fee, however, was about right. I must state Bosnia are a small nation in footballing terms. Smaller than Croatia, smaller than Ivory Coast. Also at what point did Man Utd actually offer that or is that just rumour?
Another problem you have with context, by stating Diego was a Brazillian number 10 I wasn't talking about him literally being the number 10 for Brazil. You really need to read these things properly. Since he's been at Santos he's had the hype around him, the number 10 hype around him, these type of players suffer intense scrutiny and pressure which is only worse when you are Brazillian. You are built up by hype and then ripped to shreds if you don't cut it.
You have totally bypassed and failed to understand any point i've made. Then in doing so convinced yourself it is infact me who's being idiotic
You have failed to acknowledge Nationality as a factor in player value and also used this to get away from my main point that Dzeko is over-priced....Dzeko looks a great player, he has massive potential but the price Wolfsburg are commanding when you consider everything is ridiculous. You seem to be among the small few (is there anyone else here?) that believes he is worth 40 million euros? In the list of all time world record transfer fees that would place him at about 7 or 8. Can you honestly say Dzeko deserves to be in that company of players from what he's acheived so far in football and what Wolfsburg have acheived? You seem to think yes because he's scored 26 league goals and 22 league goals in consecutive seasons for Wolfsburg, some in europe and some for his national team in a valiant but failed attempt to reach the WC. Wolfsburg and Bosnia (who have a number of promising young players now) are a lot stronger than the one man teams you make them out to be. All great acheivments but he has a LONG way to go to be considered alongside the greats of world football
Nationality only has an impact on price if he is moving to a club in his homeland.
The market is completely fucked up, so Dzeko probably is worth 35-40m at the moment and comparisons are almost always crap. you would say he isn't worth being in the top ten biggest transfer ever? That's true. Equally, I could argue that he is worth 10m more than Joleon Lescott, which would put him in the 35-40m range.
just like Grosso, Zebina, Ashton Kutcher, and Greygera
, you do your thing.This team had the talent to win it last year and could do it this year. We only needed to focus on two major things, getting a starting CB which we did, and a LB which we haven't. We have plenty of talent on our roster, but we need the right man with the right tactics and spirit to lift this team up. We aren't in a great crisis. We are only 2-3 solid players with the right coaching staff of being competitive again. I am just angry, so angry at the way way Marotta handled things and how other managers and our own unwanted players toyed him around.