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[Bjerknes]

Marotta: 'Diego doesn't fit at Juve'
Sunday 6 June, 2010

Juventus are ready to sell Diego because “he does not fit into Gigi Del Neri’s 4-4-2,” confirmed director general Beppe Marotta.

There had been question marks over the Brazilian after a poor debut season in Serie A, especially as the trequartista has struggled to find his tactical place.

“There are offers for Diego,” Marotta told Tuttosport. “Del Neri’s tactical requirements have the priority and I don’t think the Brazilian fits into the 4-4-2.

“Faced with an impressive offer, I believe we could sell him. Watch out for some of the other names in the papers, as there could be a few surprises coming to Juve.

“However, Gianluigi Buffon and Alessandro Del Piero are not for sale. They are symbols of the club and essential reference points for the younger players.”

The Bianconeri must go through the preliminary round to reach the Europa League after only finishing in seventh place.

“When you are at Juventus, it is your duty to never settle,” insisted Marotta. “We will build a Scudetto-winning side, or at least will try to.

“I consider Inter to be a step above the rest, even without Jose Mourinho. They are the number one club in Europe and got there step by step, building the foundations over the years. It proved to be a winning formula.”

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What else do folks need? It's obvious what's going on here.

Diego doesn't fit Del Neri's predetermined system, so he's gone.

To give up on a player within a year is utter stupidity, but hey, this is Juventus. We're a bunch of retards over here.

 

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[Nicholas]

Read the interview on Juventus official website Andy, its completly different to the above.

 

[Bjerknes]

A coach job is to look and create a team as he wishes them to be.

I guess in your eye that makes Del Neri a shit coach.

Looking throughout his history, yes, Del Neri is a shit coach.

Sorry, try looking at things as they are, not what you want them to be.

What's that supposed to mean? I don't see how you can disagree with what I said.

What you said has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

 

[The Pado]

I would rather keep Diego and drop Del Neri.

 

[giovanotti]

Andy aslong as it's not a rigid 4-4-2 then it could easily become 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-4(when attacking) Personally I think Diego will stay. We'll revert to one Striker and have Diego supporting him.

Fair enough.
But I remember that Mourinho had only 3 strikers in Chelsea (while using 4-2-3-1 there)
and he had only 3 strikers in the team and some youngsters.

If we play with just one striker we won't have a need to have all 4 strikers in the team (I don't count Paolucci and Immobile).
What do you think , who's gonna be sold from our strikers in that case, having in mind that Del Piero is untouchable?

 

[Bjerknes]

No - read my previous posts. No one played well enough last year to warrant altering a formation towards their style of play aka we badly need better, quicker, more creative players.

I said I think we should keep Diego, I said that, but he didn't play well enough last year to justify avoiding a 4-4-2 just to suit his style of play.

And what is your justification FOR playing the straight 4-4-2?

What is this "avoiding" bullshit?

 

[Bjerknes]

I would rather keep Diego and drop Del Neri.

Same here.

 

[Nicholas]

Fair enough.
But I remember that Mourinho had only 3 strikers in Chelsea (while using 4-2-3-1 there)
and he had only 3 strikers in the team and some youngsters.

If we play with just one striker we won't have a need to have all 4 strikers in the team (I don't count Paolucci and Immobile).
What do you think , who's gonna be sold from our strikers in that case, having in mind that Del Piero is untouchable?

Trez,Iaquinta or Amauri take your pick.

 

[giovanotti]

I would rather keep Diego and drop Del Neri.

 

[juventino899]

I'll be seriously pissed off if they sell Diego, i've said it many times now he's a very intelligent player

Most of the guys on this forum know that he can adapt to a 4-4-2 system, if he doesnt then go ahead and sell him but at least give him a chance!

Everyone points their fingers at Diego and Melo for this disastrous season, they joined at a bad time where our management was abysmal so they blame 2 of our most competent(which is very rare in our team atm) players for almost everything.

We need to keep him, i'd much rather we sell 4 players and keep diego ffs, get rid of Amauri, Camo, Trez, Sali, Grygera etc, they don't have much more to offer to the club..not that Amauri offered anything in the first place.

Trez and Camo are legends but they should leave on a high note rather than rot on the bench

 

[BillyG]

He is recontructing the team to bring in pace and width, that's makes sense.

did we not have this when we played 4-2-3-1? when we played del neri's samp off the park i might add!

We have the players for a system.... 4-2-3-1. If we stuck with that we would only need to find backups for the 3 and revamp the defence. We would have 3 completely different styles of striker between trez, amauri & IQ, all offering different attributes up front. DP would play as Diego's 2nd choice. We would only need to find a sub for Seb and 2 players on the right, or maybe only one and have the back up brought up from our fabled Primavera (maybe Rossi?). The 2 holding positions could be occupied by and of our 4 CM/DMs. Th back 4 would need the same changes it requires now RB. starting CB and maybe criscito as LB with DC as sub for this season. The whole sale changes some here have in mind would be unecessary.

I have to agree with Andy here, if we do go onto sell Diego it would only highlight the limited capabilities of del neri or the ineptness of our management to find a coach to suit the team we have.

 

[BillyG]

I would rather keep Diego and drop Del Neri.

:hellyes:

 

[Dave36]

And what is your justification FOR playing the straight 4-4-2?

What is this "avoiding" bullshit?

I don't have an opinion on the formation....yet....let's see how the transfer market plays out and then we can make a determination.

The avoiding bullshit: a coach only will develop a system to his players if his players were successful in a different formation. Diego, much like the rest of his teammates, were not successful. Therefore, what is Del Neri's reasoning for developing a formation specifically suited to Diego? What has Diego done thus far to deserve that?

 

[The Pado]

It was quite a coup for our overmatched boys Secco and Blanc to land Diego in the first place. They cannot just toss him away after 12 months. Do they really want to undue one of their only great moves?

 

[Salvatore]

We shouldn't assume Diego is a one season flop based on a season run by incompetent idiots. And even then he still showed more class than the majority of the squad could be bothered to produce.

Del Neri spoke before the season about being flexible with formations etc, so either he's lying or Marotta doesn't know that yet. If either is the case, then it's pathetic, seeing as Del Neri found a place for Cristiano Doni behind the striker for Atalanta.

 

[BillyG]

It was quite a coup for our overmatched boys Secco and Blanc to land Diego in the first place. They cannot just toss him away after 12 months. Do they really want to undue one of their only great moves?

a bit contradictory there, i think u mean their ONLY great move, & how great it is i would say is debatable considering how many tears it took them to sign hime after sounding him out.

 

[giovanotti]

Trez,Iaquinta or Amauri take your pick.

 

[Bjerknes]

I don't have an opinion on the formation....yet....let's see how the transfer market plays out and then we can make a determination.

The avoiding bullshit: a coach only will develop a system to his players if his players were successful in a different formation. Diego, much like the rest of his teammates, were not successful. Therefore, what is Del Neri's reasoning for developing a formation specifically suited to Diego? What has Diego done thus far to deserve that?

The ONLY way you're going to make sense here is if you give us reasoning as to WHY the straight 4-4-2 would be more suitable for our team.

You can't just say that every other formation we could potentially use is because we have Diego on the team.

Again, and for the LAST TIME, where are our great wingers and pace as a team?

 

[Dave36]

The ONLY way you're going to make sense here is if you give us reasoning as to WHY the straight 4-4-2 would be more suitable for our team.

You can't just say that every other formation we could potentially use is because we have Diego on the team.

Again, and for the LAST TIME, where are our great wingers and pace as a team?

You're missing my point here. I'm not suggesting that the 4-4-2 is the right fit for this team. I need to see who we let go of and who we're going to bring in.

My point is this: if we bring in the suitable players to run play a 4-4-2 and Diego is the only thing in our way from doing that, then either Diego needs to adapt or he needs to go. I'm not one for giving up on a player after one year but if you told me that we're going into next season with Diego as our centerpiece then I'm afraid that we're finishing 7th again?

Diego has not shown that he can be the centerpiece of this team. If he hasn't shown that, then all options have to be on the table.

 

[giovanotti]

What's even more stupid is to announce that you're gonna sell one of your best players simply because he doesn't fit to coach's preferred formation.
That actually means "Come and get him we don't need him and the price is gonna be flexible."
I think that we're not gonna sell him and lose several millions more, that would be really really stupid.