Honestly, if we were to compete at a high level in Europe and in Serie A, wouldn't you want your trequartista or SS to be a bit better than Diego?
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I'm a fan of the player - that's obvious to anyone who reads my comments. I think he was adjusting well to his new role, and that he could have been a quality component on a very good Juventus team - although we still needed at least another year, and an infusion of CL cash to really be scudetto contenders.
Still, no player is above the team. If Marotta was going to make this decision, absolutely hellbent on offloading the player, then it needed to happen earlier in the Mercato. Personally, in all likelihood I would have still been unhappy, but at least that way we could have maximized our return on the player, and purchased a suitable replacement.
There are really no excuses for the situation to have played out the way it did.
Quagliarella is not a suitable replacement, and I would effectively flip your question around and pose it to you: Wouldn't you want your forwards to be better than Fabio? Because if we buy him, we basically did a straight trade for Diego, and there's no question in my mind who the better player is. I've seen plenty of both, and feel very strongly about that.
Also, don't you think that players deserve more than a year to adapt to a new team? Especially when we've made a significant investment, and they've run through 3 coaches, multiple systems and a ton of new teammates during that time?
It's hard to blend well into a team that's effectively going through one of it's very worst, if not THE worst season, in the history of the club.
Personally, I'm for the patient approach. I think Melo is going to have a great season, and we'll be very pleased we didn't sell him, despite many calling for his head early and often.
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Still, no player is above the team. If Marotta was going to make this decision, absolutely hellbent on offloading the player, then it needed to happen earlier in the Mercato. Personally, in all likelihood I would have still been unhappy, but at least that way we could have maximized our return on the player, and purchased a suitable replacement.
There are really no excuses for the situation to have played out the way it did.
Quagliarella is not a suitable replacement, and I would effectively flip your question around and pose it to you: Wouldn't you want your forwards to be better than Fabio? Because if we buy him, we basically did a straight trade for Diego, and there's no question in my mind who the better player is. I've seen plenty of both, and feel very strongly about that.
Also, don't you think that players deserve more than a year to adapt to a new team? Especially when we've made a significant investment, and they've run through 3 coaches, multiple systems and a ton of new teammates during that time?
It's hard to blend well into a team that's effectively going through one of it's very worst, if not THE worst season, in the history of the club.
Personally, I'm for the patient approach. I think Melo is going to have a great season, and we'll be very pleased we didn't sell him, despite many calling for his head early and often.
Yeah... well... you're... you're... shite!
OH BURN!
Oh, so players aren't simplistic and superficial?
That's what I thought.
I was simply thinking like a player, no wait, any normal human being would think in a situation like that.
Gee I get to go back to my old stomping grounds, where I'm loved, and for a lot more money.......................
I'm sure it was a really tough decision for him.
That's what I thought.
I was simply thinking like a player, no wait, any normal human being would think in a situation like that.
Gee I get to go back to my old stomping grounds, where I'm loved, and for a lot more money.......................
I'm sure it was a really tough decision for him.
Look, I have no issue with this guy's talents. He's a very good player, but I'm not going to go out on a limb and say that he is a "Champion".
C Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero, Ibra, Ronaldinho..................Those are champions.
And if he was the "Champion" of this Juve squad, that isn't saying very much.
It's like saying you won the special olympics.
In the end, you're still a fucking retard.
C Ronaldo, Messi, Aguero, Ibra, Ronaldinho..................Those are champions.
And if he was the "Champion" of this Juve squad, that isn't saying very much.
It's like saying you won the special olympics.
In the end, you're still a fucking retard.
Well, that again is debatable; it depends who plays better once we have both players, if they're willing to not be guaranteed an automatic starting spot, etc. Injuries can always play their part as well, a problem we're seeing our team go through right now.
The best teams have plenty of options, and eventually we want to be one of those best teams again... so I wouldn't say that he'd be a goner for sure.
Also, for the record, I would have definitely been onboard with offloading Diego for Aguero or Cassano. Either of those players would compliment our current lineup very, very well.
The best teams have plenty of options, and eventually we want to be one of those best teams again... so I wouldn't say that he'd be a goner for sure.
Also, for the record, I would have definitely been onboard with offloading Diego for Aguero or Cassano. Either of those players would compliment our current lineup very, very well.
Man, that's a completely general statement, and by no means are players (or athletes) all simplistic or superficial. As a student of professional sports in general, which I consider you to be Sergio, you really should know this... and I'm actually confident that you do.
Frankly, as a player or human being, I would be plenty pissed if I moved to a club I had wanted to play at for a long time, not been given a legitimate shot, and then cast aside like rubbish, sold for peanuts. That's embarrassing.
I would want to stay in a country that I enjoyed, that I had some heritage from, and that I had recently uprooted my whole life to go to.
I would want to prove myself in a different league, I would want to prove myself at a historic, world renowned club, like Juventus.
I am typically a person with a great deal of pride, and most top class players are as well.
In the end, I'm sure he'll be happy enough at Wolfsburg, his old stomping grounds, and the money obviously doesn't hurt.
But Diego will likely consider this experience a huge disappointment, and that can't sit well with him.
Also, as he mentioned in his comments, if Marotta had come to him earlier, they could have looked for a new location together (and Juve probably would have gotten more money). That to me says that Wolfsburg, and likely the Bundesliga, were not his first choice.
He was just trying to make the best of a terrible situation. Who wants to stay at a club that is doing everything they possibly can to sell them?
That "champion" title get tossed around all to often anyway. Also, as someone pointed out earlier, that translation seems like it was a bit butchered, and Diego was referring to Camo and Trez with that statement. Those guys, for my money, are the definition of the word.
Anyway, the way we offloaded the player was pathetic, pure and simple.
For me, this is shades of Thornton to San Jose.
Frankly, as a player or human being, I would be plenty pissed if I moved to a club I had wanted to play at for a long time, not been given a legitimate shot, and then cast aside like rubbish, sold for peanuts. That's embarrassing.
I would want to stay in a country that I enjoyed, that I had some heritage from, and that I had recently uprooted my whole life to go to.
I would want to prove myself in a different league, I would want to prove myself at a historic, world renowned club, like Juventus.
I am typically a person with a great deal of pride, and most top class players are as well.
In the end, I'm sure he'll be happy enough at Wolfsburg, his old stomping grounds, and the money obviously doesn't hurt.
But Diego will likely consider this experience a huge disappointment, and that can't sit well with him.
Also, as he mentioned in his comments, if Marotta had come to him earlier, they could have looked for a new location together (and Juve probably would have gotten more money). That to me says that Wolfsburg, and likely the Bundesliga, were not his first choice.
He was just trying to make the best of a terrible situation. Who wants to stay at a club that is doing everything they possibly can to sell them?
That "champion" title get tossed around all to often anyway. Also, as someone pointed out earlier, that translation seems like it was a bit butchered, and Diego was referring to Camo and Trez with that statement. Those guys, for my money, are the definition of the word.
Anyway, the way we offloaded the player was pathetic, pure and simple.
For me, this is shades of Thornton to San Jose.
But we effectively traded Diego for Quagliarella. Would you say that we don't have the luxury of Quagliarella or _______?
Next year, if we grab a CL spot (which, IMO was more likely with Diego), and with the new stadium opening, I fully expect us to sign a big name forward - hopefully Dzeko, but I would take Aguero just as readily.
Also, despite the fact that the money isn't huge, we probably would have done better in the Europa league this season with Diego. This is all speculation, and not a real solid argument - who knows how we'll do in Europa, we could even win the tourney (I don't think we will, but we technically could) - but Quagliarella isn't even eligible... so we potentially miss out on some funds there as well. We certainly miss out on some quality.
Next year, if we grab a CL spot (which, IMO was more likely with Diego), and with the new stadium opening, I fully expect us to sign a big name forward - hopefully Dzeko, but I would take Aguero just as readily.
Also, despite the fact that the money isn't huge, we probably would have done better in the Europa league this season with Diego. This is all speculation, and not a real solid argument - who knows how we'll do in Europa, we could even win the tourney (I don't think we will, but we technically could) - but Quagliarella isn't even eligible... so we potentially miss out on some funds there as well. We certainly miss out on some quality.