Diego Ribas da Cunha (67 Viewers)

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
^^ he has nobody to play the ball to, there is no way he can be a success if we keep playing like this...you could Zidane in the current Juve team and he would play like shit
And I'm sick of all the talk how he have noone to play with, I mean c'mon do you really belive in that? He is the one supposed to make things happen.

My point was/is that he is too big coward in his play, always take too much time to make decision, mostly he touches the ball two-three times, do some pony trick and than turn around and pass it back.
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
^^ he has nobody to play the ball to, there is no way he can be a success if we keep playing like this...you could Zidane in the current Juve team and he would play like shit
That can not be denied.
What people object at though, is the fact that Diego was supposed to be the guy who'll make things happen, but he's not doing that. Something like Kaka in 2007/08 Milan. That team played just as bad as this year's Juve. But from time to time Kaka would have taken the ball in his legs and do something useful. Score, assist, win a penalty. We all know that Diego can't win us every match when the others are shit. And we don't expect him to. He can't win us every second, every third match either. But on some ~25 matches this year we played the way we played today and on none of those matches Diego saved us.
Take Del Piero until last year. Even when nothing worked he was able from time to time to win us a match with a single move. And Ale was 34.

We knew when we bought Diego that the team has to spin around him. No-one was doubting Diego's talent but I remember Vlatko doubting that Diego posses enough quality for the team to spin around him and that if the team is set that way, when Diego won't play well the team won't play either.
So what can we say now?
Is Diego good enough to be your team's main player? No, he's far away from Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rooney etc.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
I cannot wait to see a proper coach use good attacking players and proper tactics alongside this guy so we see him flourish.
That's the main question: Is Diego good enough to set the tactics according to his needs and all the other players we buy to be bought according to what's needed in order to suit Diego?

I don't know the right answer but if your answer is YES, then Diego will have to do a lot more to convince me.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
That can not be denied.
What people object at though, is the fact that Diego was supposed to be the guy who'll make things happen, but he's not doing that. Something like Kaka in 2007/08 Milan. That team played just as bad as this year's Juve. But from time to time Kaka would have taken the ball in his legs and do something useful. Score, assist, win a penalty. We all know that Diego can't win us every match when the others are shit. And we don't expect him to. He can't win us every second, every third match either. But on some ~25 matches this year we played the way we played today and on none of those matches Diego saved us.
Take Del Piero until last year. Even when nothing worked he was able from time to time to win us a match with a single move. And Ale was 34.

We knew when we bought Diego that the team has to spin around him. No-one was doubting Diego's talent but I remember Vlatko doubting that Diego posses enough quality for the team to spin around him and that if the team is set that way, when Diego won't play well the team won't play either.
So what can we say now?
Is Diego good enough to be your team's main player? No, he's far away from Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rooney etc.
even then that Milan side played a very attractive attacking style, not Juve's brick-wall style of play...and Kaka was never given the 'saviour' status that Diego was given on his arrival in Turin.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
That can not be denied.
What people object at though, is the fact that Diego was supposed to be the guy who'll make things happen, but he's not doing that. Something like Kaka in 2007/08 Milan. That team played just as bad as this year's Juve. But from time to time Kaka would have taken the ball in his legs and do something useful. Score, assist, win a penalty. We all know that Diego can't win us every match when the others are shit. And we don't expect him to. He can't win us every second, every third match either. But on some ~25 matches this year we played the way we played today and on none of those matches Diego saved us.
Take Del Piero until last year. Even when nothing worked he was able from time to time to win us a match with a single move. And Ale was 34.

We knew when we bought Diego that the team has to spin around him. No-one was doubting Diego's talent but I remember Vlatko doubting that Diego posses enough quality for the team to spin around him and that if the team is set that way, when Diego won't play well the team won't play either.
So what can we say now?
Is Diego good enough to be your team's main player? No, he's far away from Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaka, Rooney etc.
:agree:

It really annoys me how every player we have lack other players to be good, the same scenario is with Diego. FFS than any player can play great if we buy other 10 that fits him.

@bolded part, I was with Vlatko on that, and I remember that we agreed that he is type of player you never know what to expect. He could be next best thing or just another expensive under preforming player at our ranks.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
even then that Milan side played a very attractive attacking style, not Juve's brick-wall style of play...and Kaka was never given the 'saviour' status that Diego was given on his arrival in Turin.
That was the first warning sign right there. Diego welcomed as a new Platini. Having done next to nothing in his career prior to that.
 
May 22, 2007
37,256
That's the main question: Is Diego good enough to set the tactics according to his needs and all the other players we buy to be bought according to what's needed in order to suit Diego?

I don't know the right answer but if your answer is YES, then Diego will have to do a lot more to convince me.
I'll say yes, because even though we haven't seen moments of brilliance enough, he has shown more than enough heart and effort to convince me he will come good, as opposed to someone like Melo.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
13,340
So everyone is saying how Diego can't play well, because of the team around him, which I agree with, simply because it consists of no-skill DMs and there's no movement whatsoever.

People are saying players like Sneijder wouldn't do all that much better because there is nobody to pass to, yet Diego has to show alot more to convince everyone he's a player to 'build' our team around? In the current situation that doesn't sound quite right to me.

Also, we can already play 4-2-3-1 if we wanted to, we have the players for it, especially since we have Candreva here for the rest of the season. A few games in that formation would probably show us a bit more of the 'real' Diego.

I think he'll pull through.
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
even then that Milan side played a very attractive attacking style, not Juve's brick-wall style of play...and Kaka was never given the 'saviour' status that Diego was given on his arrival in Turin.
So now he also can't hold the pressure?

I don't think that anyone looked at him as our saviour. We all looked at him as a player who should give as an edge over other teasm in Italy, who can help us when it matters, but not a saviour figure. We were supposed to fight for Scudetto not for staying in Serie A, so we didn't needed saviour.

Did we had big expectations from him? YES! We all hoped that he could fill Neddy's boots, but hell he knew that from the begginig and looked pretty confident, so I don't think that pressure got to him (unlike Melo who is tottaly different story).

Now I criticise him but with no malice intentions, and I would never sell him unless some big money offer arrives (City-esque) or we sign some even greater playmaker and Diego becomes surplus to our needs.

For now I can only hope that all of this is just his adaptation process and that we are going to see the real Diego.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Why all the hate on Diego? Why blame him alone? It's not like he is a "miracle worker." He is merely a very talented and gifted footballer who can't express himself on a team full of goofs, over-rated players, players who can't pass, and past it/over the hill individuals. How is he supposed to carry the team, when there is no team around him? Who is he going to pass to? Who actually runs to receive balls on this "team" ?! Are you suggesting that he is also responsible for building a team? :shifty: :shocked:

I say play him with Gio, Camo, Candreva, and the like and he may actually begin to excel.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
13,340
Why all the hate on Diego? Why blame him alone? It's not like he is a "miracle worker." He is merely a very talented and gifted footballer who can't express himself on a team full of goofs, over-rated players, players who can't pass, and past it/over the hill individuals. Who is he supposed to carry the team, when there is no team around him? Who is he going to pass to? Who actually runs to receive balls on this "team" ?! Are you suggesting that he is also responsible for building a team? :shifty: :shocked:

I say play him with Gio, Camo, Candreva, and the like and he may actually begin to excel.
:tup:
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
Diego is good but the expectation from our fans to him were pretty exaggerated. With a good team he can definitely add quality but he's not the type of players who would lift the whole team by himself (a zidane, del piero type).

If he was extremely good Porto wouldn't let him go for just 5 mil to bremen. Not saying he's not good but IMO he's nothing special....
 

The Curr

Senior Member
Feb 3, 2007
33,705
What he's trying to do is hopeless. He has no one to work with except Del Piero who is usually within 5 yards of him. The full backs are too old and too useless and the rest of the midfield is no good to him when it comes to passing and creating. I don't blame Diego at all.


Juventino[RUS];2402428 said:
sell sell sell sell
10 mlns maximum
-Rep.
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,842
to everyone saying sell him, you are clearly delusional any player that has to run the ball from wing to wing, defense to attack is going to struggle, he will run into players, he will fuck up passes because of fatigue, due to the simple fact that he has to do everything.

he is one of the most talented players in our team, with the right backup he is WC, play the 4-2-3-1 and you will see the best possible diego, a fantastic player.

the fact he has done it this season when playing with such a bad ball playing team shows you his quality.

dont forget that that milan team still had a great regista did they not? there team can pass alen.

he isnt a one man team though he is a player that will provide that great ball, that great run but by himself its a big ask, given the right tools (giovinco for example) he could IMO.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
to everyone saying sell him, you are clearly delusional any player that has to run the ball from wing to wing, defense to attack is going to struggle, he will run into players, he will fuck up passes because of fatigue, due to the simple fact that he has to do everything.

he is one of the most talented players in our team, with the right backup he is WC, play the 4-2-3-1 and you will see the best possible diego, a fantastic player.

the fact he has done it this season when playing with such a bad ball playing team shows you his quality.

dont forget that that milan team still had a great regista did they not? there team can pass alen.

he isnt a one man team though he is a player that will provide that great ball, that great run but by himself its a big ask, given the right tools (giovinco for example) he could IMO.
Oh ok melo is flop but diego is gooooooooood, sooo skileed, to run with ball and ask for free kick , nothin else, no crosses, no goal assists, no good passes, just trade him on Ribery + cash of couse and u will see improvements in our game with standart 442 formation without diego 4312 4231 etc. shit!!!!Without Diego we played much better then with him and this is truth!!Last season we had more injuries but we played better with Neddy, now we have Diego and what?????He is hopeless, yes he is good with ball control and tricks, but it's dont works here.Yes we have bad wings, but last seasons they were better or what???Last season we had MELLBERG e GRYGERA as RB and MOLINARO and DC as LB, and it was better then now????or What????We buyed DIego to play trequartista but he play like ballerina or somethin.....im tired of his perfomance, it's hopeless, i want to see Giovinco on field on this position, he will impress us, and diego must go to bundesliga and show his ball control there, where is no teams with good defence like in Italy
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,842
what are you talking about he is our leading assist man is he not?

he crosses plenty but when he has useless wingbacks he is all by himself on the wing, do you even watch the games or see that he hasnt scored 1000 goals and critique the guy?
 

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