Diego Ribas da Cunha (57 Viewers)

Bozi

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i think what this does is send out a message of intent that we are serious about building a team with real quality. that said, we are still some way short of title winning capability, the next 2-3 signings will be even more important than this one, if we do not buy adequate quality to suppliment Diego's midfield creativity then this will be a futile excersize
 

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Whatever happens this is a good and very prestigeous signing by the board.
I agree.

I see some people are reserving themselves in order to have the possibility to come back and say "I told you so" if Diego isn't an instant success. That's just poor.
My reservations are not really about Diego, but about trequartista based formations.

As I have said before, I believe teams become overly reliant on that one player and if that player is well closed down (lots of good DMs in Italy), the team will have major problems.

I prefer my creativity to come from wide areas, as that is harder for the opposition to close down effectively.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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I agree.



My reservations are not really about Diego, but about trequartista based formations.

As I have said before, I believe teams become overly reliant on that one player and if that player is well closed down (lots of good DMs in Italy), the team will have major problems.

I prefer my creativity to come from wide areas, as that is harder for the opposition to close down effectively.
Yeah but at least we have other creative sources in the team in the form of Del Piero, Giovinco and Camo. Having Diego wont mean we will be dependant on him or will be shut down if he gets shut down.
 

Bjerknes

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I agree.



My reservations are not really about Diego, but about trequartista based formations.

As I have said before, I believe teams become overly reliant on that one player and if that player is well closed down (lots of good DMs in Italy), the team will have major problems.

I prefer my creativity to come from wide areas, as that is harder for the opposition to close down effectively.
What if we have creativity both in the middle and out wide?

Camoranesi - Diego - Giovinco
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Whatever happens this is a good and very prestigeous signing by the board. I see some people are reserving themselves in order to have the possibility to come back and say "I told you so" if Diego isn't an instant success. That's just poor.

Fact is this is the most exciting signing Juve made in nearly a decade. And we have snatched Diego from under the noses of more wealthy clubs for a reasonable fee.
True.
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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CalcioJuve, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced.

I fear we will lack width, the midfield will be very crowded and it will be very hard for our creative players to find space.
 

Bjerknes

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We would score a lot and concede a lot, unless we spend big on the defence.

Put Marchionni in for Giovinco, due to his superior defensive ability, and it might just work. :p
Even if we use two DM's in midfield?

Seriously, what do you want, a four-man DM midfield? :p
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Even if we use two DM's in midfield?

Seriously, what do you want, a four-man DM midfield? :p
If you made a minor change and made Camo part of a three man central midfield, rather than leaving him out on the wing, I would happily use that.

Basically, I prefer 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 to 4-2-3-1.

Something like:

Camoranesi----Sissoko-Marchisio------

--------------Diego-------Giovinco

Amauri​
 
Mar 30, 2006
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CalcioJuve, I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced.

I fear we will lack width, the midfield will be very crowded and it will be very hard for our creative players to find space.
Well Del Piero is not great out on the wing but when Giovinco plays with Diego he will drift over to the left and cut into the box. Not to mention Camo pushing up on the right. Camo is not a winger who hugs the touchline anyway so playing as a RCM would not be that big a deal for him I think and we would have almost the same width when attacking but more central penetration in additio to that.

like with something like this we would have good outlets on the wings and in the center:

-----------------Amauri
Giovinco---------------------
-------------Diego--------
-------------------------------Camo
---Marchisio----Momo------

Criscito-Chiellini--Canna-----Zebina?

--------------Buffon----------------

Having players like Marchisio and Momo who run non stop and do lots of work will be key in letting us get away with a formation like this and at the same time protecting the back 4



Edit: You just put the exact same thing in the post above me hahah
 

Luca

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Apr 22, 2007
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I don't think it is possible for those 3 to play together, I think it's gonna be tough on giovinco again unfortunetly.
 

v1rtu4l

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Something like:

Camoranesi----Sissoko-Marchisio------

--------------Diego-------Giovinco

Amauri​
i think this would not work because none of the midfielders of this setup does stay in front of the defence ... all do roam which will be very prone to counter attacks, since no one is constantly guarding our back four
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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i think this would not work because none of the midfielders of this setup does stay in front of the defence ... all do roam which will be very prone to counter attacks, since no one is constantly guarding our back four
We played with Sissoko-Marchisio in the center a lot of times this season and we did brilliant, especially defensive wise.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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i think this would not work because none of the midfielders of this setup does stay in front of the defence ... all do roam which will be very prone to counter attacks, since no one is constantly guarding our back four
You don't need the same player to always stay back.

Sissoko and Marchisio are intelligent enough to develop an understanding whereby only one of them goes forward at any given time.

They also have the advantage of being very mobile for DMs.


Alternatively, I have no problem with playing Poulsen or Zanetti.
 
Mar 30, 2006
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You don't need the same player to always stay back.

Sissoko and Marchisio are intelligent enough to develop an understanding whereby only one of them goes forward at any given time.

They also have the advantage of being very mobile for DMs.


Alternatively, I have no problem with playing Poulsen or Zanetti.

Yeah Poulsen and Zentti are different to Marchisio and Momo where they tend to sit back and make intelligent use of the ball and their positioning.

But Momo and Marchisio can cover lots of ground and get forward to attack while still making sure the defence is covered.
 

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