Delpiero or Trezeguet? (14 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,912
#62
++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


-Dp Just had one single bad game this Season and yet he's receiving all this Bashes for nothing..
Incorrect. He was horrible in all but one Champions League match, and in more than half of the Serie A matches he was completely nonexistent. Take away the tap-ins, and he has done almost nothing.

-From what i notice your not Satisfied with Dp's 8 goals so far, doesn't he play for a club called Juventus? Each time we talk about his 8goals your reply is" Zlatan did the Assist " well Good for him, whats the big deal then?
His goals are fine, nothing wrong about that. But when people say Del Piero has done more than Zlatan, I have to tell them he hasn't. Without the assists, there would be no goals. Zlatan has created more goals than Alex, either scoring them himself or giving the pass for the goal.


-You should know that Del Piero is not taking the roll he used to take when he used to play along-side Trezeguet..
That is not an excuse for the lackluster performances, whether it be true or not.



-About Dp's age, He's 30 Andy, if you think 30 is kinda old for a player then your wrong, I repeat Dp is not Finished like some of you Say here, he still Got alot and Wants to give alot for this club.
You think Alex will get any better??? His performances have just been getting worse and worse, and you tell me he still has a lot to give? He is finished in my eyes, bring in a replacement, now. He might want to give a lot, but he is not capable of doing that anymore. You just have to accept it.



-Don't forget Don fabio is Subs Dp Every Single game almost, how do you want the partner-ship between Zlatan and Dp to Improve and get better, i guess this is Capello's mistake.
The reason why he subs DP all the time is because he usually is playing horrible. Any player who is not doing anything on the pitch should be subbed, no question. Again, another excuse that does not work for Del Piero. We have had enough.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
#63
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


The only thing I am remotely mad at is having to argue with fans who know nothing about soccer and worship a single player over the success of the club. It's frustrating to spend so much time writing about this issue, and have the person who its directed toward blow it off saying "Del Piero is always better, am sure of that." I guess some of you just do not know how to make an arguement or are just too retarded to do anything, one of the two. When the going gets tough, and when Del Piero is no longer part of the team, be sure to close the door of the Juventus fan club when you leave.

Believe me Andy, you have no idea how many times I started writing a reply to a Del Piero fanatic, only to tell myself that I cant bother. There's no point really, they see the world through Del Piero colored glasses, and you cant change their mind, no matter how many constructive, intelligent points and arguments you make. So I stopped trying. Cant bother anymore.
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
#64
++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Listen here are my Points:

-Dp Just had one single bad game this Season and yet he's receiving all this Bashes for nothing..

-From what i notice your not Satisfied with Dp's 8 goals so far, doesn't he play for a club called Juventus? Each time we talk about his 8goals your reply is" Zlatan did the Assist " well Good for him, whats the big deal then?

-You should know that Del Piero is not taking the roll he used to take when he used to play along-side Trezeguet..

-And about he should sit on the bench and all these trash for what?? Lets be logic, Zlatan had couple of disaster games, yet we never said he should be benched, because we know his abilities are much better then Zalayeta, while you guys are trying to convince me and the others that ZALAYETA can take Dp's role, C'mon...

-About Dp's age, He's 30 Andy, if you think 30 is kinda old for a player then your wrong, I repeat Dp is not Finished like some of you Say here, he still Got alot and Wants to give alot for this club.

-Don't forget Don fabio is Subs Dp Every Single game almost, how do you want the partner-ship between Zlatan and Dp to Improve and get better, i guess this is Capello's mistake.

-About Dp's money he earns, i repeat, this concern Moggi not us.

anyhow if i continue i wont finish tonight, these were my Main points..

Forza Juve
Forza Dp
-he has not had one bad game, he has had several bad games, and a few (inculding the Milan one) God damn awful ones. He isnt involved in the buildup, doesnt contribute to the play, loses the ball more times than not, and is generally uninterested in contributing to the team.

-and I personaly am not saying DP is finished because he's 30 (altho that is one of the reasons), but because he's too weak, too injury prone and to scared to take on defenders. He gets musceled off the ball to easily.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,912
#65
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



Believe me Andy, you have no idea how many times I started writing a reply to a Del Piero fanatic, only to tell myself that I cant bother. There's no point really, they see the world through Del Piero colored glasses, and you cant change their mind, no matter how many constructive, intelligent points and arguments you make. So I stopped trying. Cant bother anymore.

Yeah it's basically a waste of time. Unfortunately about half of our supporters fall victim to the "Del Piero blinders."
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
#66
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


-he has not had one bad game, he has had several bad games, and a few (inculding the Milan one) God damn awful ones. He isnt involved in the buildup, doesnt contribute to the play, loses the ball more times than not, and is generally uninterested in contributing to the team.

-and I personaly am not saying DP is finished because he's 30 (altho that is one of the reasons), but because he's too weak, too injury prone and to scared to take on defenders. He gets musceled off the ball to easily.

Preach, my brother, preach.
 

Daddi

Cuadrado is juan hell of a derby king!
Oct 27, 2004
7,900
#67
We need one fast attacker. I think that Zlatan and Trezeguet isnt fast enough, same with Del Piero and Zalayeta. Our midfield isnt fast enoug either. We lack pace in our team. Bring in a fast forward, a creative midfielder and hmmm..you do the thinking Capello ;)
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
#68
++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
We need one fast attacker. I think that Zlatan and Trezeguet isnt fast enough, same with Del Piero and Zalayeta. Our midfield isnt fast enoug either. We lack pace in our team. Bring in a fast forward, a creative midfielder and hmmm..you do the thinking Capello ;)

Just bring in Maldini and let him run around up top, he has barrels of pace.
 

Codino

The Rival
Jul 21, 2002
1,394
#71
anyway.

They both get injured so they both get bad marks there. But Trezeguet plays better in his position than delpi does in his. BUT again, Trezegol needs a supplier, so Ibra, neddy, or zambo can help there.
 

Daddi

Cuadrado is juan hell of a derby king!
Oct 27, 2004
7,900
#74
something like this?

Trez - Zlatan

------Del Piero
Nedved-Emo-Blasi

Zamb-Canna-thuram-Zebina

buffon

?
 

NEDVED

Senior Member
Nov 16, 2003
3,921
#75
yes, del piero i guess does better in this position because he's not always man marked there, unlike as a forward, he's not stuck with a defender always marking his back.... and he is creative so by this we get good strikers, good wingers and good AM ...
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#76
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++

Incorrect. He was horrible in all but one Champions League match, and in more than half of the Serie A matches he was completely nonexistent. Take away the tap-ins, and he has done almost nothing.
He was incorrect but your reply was just as wrong. DP played four CL matches and was good against Ajax and Maccabi. Away to Bayern he was ok, the home fixture against the Germans was the only game in which Alex really struggled. In his 11 Serie A appearances he excelled against Siena, Roma and Lecce. He was reasonable against Brescia, Reggina, Lazio and Sampdoria. That's seven games and you'll have to tell me about the Bologna match because I didn't catch that one. Five goals (one tap-in, one penalty) and two assists in 11 games (9 of them starts) is nothing?


His goals are fine, nothing wrong about that. But when people say Del Piero has done more than Zlatan, I have to tell them he hasn't. Without the assists, there would be no goals. Zlatan has created more goals than Alex, either scoring them himself or giving the pass for the goal.
Del Piero hasn't done more than Zlatan, that's a foolish argument, I'll only say that the latter has seen alot more playing time.


You think Alex will get any better??? His performances have just been getting worse and worse, and you tell me he still has a lot to give? He is finished in my eyes, bring in a replacement, now. He might want to give a lot, but he is not capable of doing that anymore. You just have to accept it.
He can still be useful imo, whether it be off the bench or from the start when he's playing well. Whittle down his salary, relieve him of the captaincy and see how things go from there. I think that's the best option because we won't get alot for his sale.


The reason why he subs DP all the time is because he usually is playing horrible. Any player who is not doing anything on the pitch should be subbed, no question. Again, another excuse that does not work for Del Piero. We have had enough.
Capello's decisions make it very convenient for you to make that statement but wasn't DP offering more than Zlatan when he was replaced against Roma, Siena, Lecce, Ajax and others? He failed to play the full game against Maccabi after scoring, at who's expense I wonder? If I'm pro-DP then Capello and yourself are definitely pro-Zlatan and one thing you can't deny is Don Fabio's favouritism towards Zlatan. Ibrahimovic is the better player right now, but it's not fair to Alex that he's only played one full game all season when he has outdone his strike partner on quite a few occasions.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#77
I don't think I'd play DP as a midfielder because he's not fast or strong enough, but a trident attack could work. Having both Trez and Zlatan up there would allow Ale more freedom to roam and find space because the defenders will turn their attention to Trezlatan.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
#79
++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
something like this?

Trez - Zlatan

------Del Piero
Nedved-Emo-Blasi

Zamb-Canna-thuram-Zebina

buffon

?
Good one, but take out Blasi Put Camoranesi in, we should try this one day, anyhow with this formation we can attack more and create more chances, and about the defence i don't think we should worry having Canna, Zamo,Thuram,Zebina they can handle any opposition.
 

NEDVED

Senior Member
Nov 16, 2003
3,921
#80
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
I don't think I'd play DP as a midfielder because he's not fast or strong enough, but a trident attack could work. Having both Trez and Zlatan up there would allow Ale more freedom to roam and find space because the defenders will turn their attention to Trezlatan.
u read my mind ;)
 

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