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Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Astori is even worse than Boccheti, who at his turn is even worse than Bonucci...
Man, dont we even learn?? I thought we let this nationalistic BS behind us??
It is not mandatory to buy an Italian if cant find a decent one...
We should better get Sorensen back, if we dont want to invest on the defense!
But IMO, we should, esp if Bonucci loses the season, we barely have 3 starters atm, we need at least one equally good available.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,174
Astori is even worse than Boccheti, who at his turn is even worse than Bonucci...
Man, dont we even learn?? I thought we let this nationalistic BS behind us??
It is not mandatory to buy an Italian if cant find a decent one...
We should better get Sorensen back, if we dont want to invest on the defense!
But IMO, we should, esp if Bonucci loses the season, we barely have 3 starters atm, we need at least one equally good available.
+Rep :beer: :D
 

Xiven

Junior Member
Jul 14, 2011
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Astori is even worse than Boccheti, who at his turn is even worse than Bonucci...
Man, dont we even learn?? I thought we let this nationalistic BS behind us??
It is not mandatory to buy an Italian if cant find a decent one...
We should better get Sorensen back, if we dont want to invest on the defense!
But IMO, we should, esp if Bonucci loses the season, we barely have 3 starters atm, we need at least one equally good available.
Must buy Italian or buy nobody. :stuckup:














ItalJuve4Life! :flag4:















And I'm not even Italian. :alen:
 
May 22, 2007
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Astori is even worse than Boccheti, who at his turn is even worse than Bonucci...
Man, dont we even learn?? I thought we let this nationalistic BS behind us??
It is not mandatory to buy an Italian if cant find a decent one...
We should better get Sorensen back, if we dont want to invest on the defense!
But IMO, we should, esp if Bonucci loses the season, we barely have 3 starters atm, we need at least one equally good available.
It must have really eaten you up inside to see ItalJuve win the league undefeated.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,174
Cronios definitely exaggerates with the whole ItalJuve thing, but he's right in that there are so many average Italian players, and we actually do have a few of them on our squad.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
On the contrary, since Conte arived, the ItalJuve era started to end!
We have a new starter foreigner on the attack (Vucinic), a foreigner in the middle (Vidal) and a foreigner in the defense (Licht) And those 3 are if not the best, among the best on their lines.
I wouldnt mind an ItalJuve project consisting of Giovinco, Rossi - Santon, Marchisio, Pirlo, De Rossi, Pepe - Chiellini, Barzagli, Non Italian - Buffon,
but as long as weaklings like Grosso, Motta, Legro, Molinaro etc are starters, ONLY because of their nationality and not because of their value, then there is a problem!
This is the ItalJuve project i criticize.

Conte's Juve only had 2 such weaklings, Bonucci, (who is a class above past weaklings) and Borriello.
The rest are Juve material and are not in our team only because of their nationality. As long as they are good i dont mind them!
Even Pepe and Giacche, when played, they had good performances!

With Caceres and the Lucio, i thought that those days are finally over, but the Astori and Bocchetti talks scare me...
and although i trust Conte, sometimes he pulls a Borriello as well...
Even AA himself and Marotta interviews have admitted that they have gone too far with insisting on Italians.
I hoped that we have come into our senses... we dropped those weakling and we did great, why bring them back?
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Yes the ItalJuve that were undefeated league winners and provided the backbone for the Euro 2012 finalists.
this is not the ItalJuve project, the ItalJuve project was the one that had "champions" like Iaquinta, Motta, Grosso etc and gave priority to nationality over performance,
that was no the case this season, except those 2 cases, i mentioned and some favorism to Giacche+Pepe+Bonucci over Elia+Krasic+Sorensen... but that was not essemtial on the title anyway...
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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Haha yeah.

"It was ItalJuve when they didn't perform well, not when we won the league"
Lose = ItalJuve project, forced upon us by the ultra nationalistic management who only try to appease our racist, unintelligent fans.

Win = Euhm, the exact opposite? I'm not sure, all of the posts by the usual suspects seem to tell me we finished 7th yet again last season...





Edit: forgot to mention the tiny stadium, my bad.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
this is not the ItalJuve project, the ItalJuve project was the one that had "champions" like Iaquinta, Motta, Grosso etc and gave priority to nationality over performance,
that was no the case this season, except those 2 cases, i mentioned and some favorism to Giacche+Pepe+Bonucci over Elia+Krasic+Sorensen... but that was not essemtial on the title anyway...
Have a nice cup, of shut the fuck up.


Juventus allways had a core of italians, and the current generation is lesser then what the past has given us. yet, the ones we have brought us that marvellous undefeated scudetto last year, so italjuve project was a damn victory
 
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