David Trezeguet (53 Viewers)

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Just to interject, but, what difference does it make how long he's "been a fan" for? Would it somehow invalidate the sentiment? What he's said is exactly right. They wanted to leave, just the same as the other so-called mercenaries/traitors, and yet some let them off the hook, so to speak. Hypocritical, at best.

Oh, and I've "been a fan" since I was five (way back in 1987), in case you'd like to pose the same query to me.
Point is not about who 'really' wanted to stay. Sure, more respect to them. At the end of the day it's about who actually stayed. The management at the time only really tried to stop one player with all they had and that was Zlatan but he muscled his way out.

It's a valid question how long someone's been a fan. You just can't discount the contribution Trezeguet has made to Juventus. Whether he had a desire to move on when we were demoted or not. He's been very respectful of the whole situation even if he was allegedly 'blocked' from moving.
 

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adriano_c

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Point is not about who 'really' wanted to stay. Sure, more respect to them. At the end of the day it's about who actually stayed. The management at the time only really tried to stop one player with all they had and that was Zlatan but he muscled his way out.
Well, I think it's more than a fair point about who "really wanted to stay", as that's at the heart of the matter, right? The love of the shirt and club? In turn, what loyalty, love and respect the fans should reciprocate? Certain players tried their hardest to leave, and were extremely vocal (particularly Camoranesi, as I recall), but the hierarchy simply put the foot down and refused. Buffon giving up the best years of his career (at said point, he would have walked into any starting 11 in Europe), when he could have complained and demanded a transfer is a lot more praiseworthy than Trezeguet (not to single him out, but an example) making noise to leave for the majority of the '06 summer window. On Ibra, had he not threatened legal action and ended up staying, would people be citing him as a shining example of club dedication? In spite of all he said and did during that time? I don't think so, for some reason. Probably because of his otherwise rather egotistical attitude. Meanwhile, the double standard is at play for the aforementioned players. Why?

It's a valid question how long someone's been a fan. You just can't discount the contribution Trezeguet has made to Juventus. Whether he had a desire to move on when we were demoted or not. He's been very respectful of the whole situation even if he was allegedly 'blocked' from moving.
Maybe it's splitting hairs, but in this very particular context (true loyalty and gratitude owed with respect to demotion/leaving and staying by choice or otherwise), Trezeguet's tremendous contribution isn't really relevant. Thuram and Zambrotta also gave us a lot, yet they're branded mercenaries regardless, simply for getting their way.

Anyway.
 

X Æ A-12

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Point is not about who 'really' wanted to stay. Sure, more respect to them. At the end of the day it's about who actually stayed. The management at the time only really tried to stop one player with all they had and that was Zlatan but he muscled his way out.

It's a valid question how long someone's been a fan. You just can't discount the contribution Trezeguet has made to Juventus. Whether he had a desire to move on when we were demoted or not. He's been very respectful of the whole situation even if he was allegedly 'blocked' from moving.
I've never discounted or been disrespectful to David. I'm saying that people here who hold him and Camoranesi up with Nedved, DP, and Buffon because they stayed during Serie B are wrong, that is all. Believe me, I want David to stay here for another season as much as anyone.

And this has nothing to do with how long I've been a fan.
 

Gabriel

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Respecting his big (enormous, legendary) contribution to the team has nothing to do with the fact that he wanted away from the team, and really that's not as bad as people tend to see it, those players did the best for their careers. The difference between them and the ones who stayed was the level of attachment they had to the team. And the only champions who decided to stay as far as i know were Nedved, Buffon and Del Piero.

The other two contributed a lot to Juventus, yes. But at that certain time they wanted away and were forced to stay. They didn't do it out of love for the club but out of contract obligations.
 
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Sorry but I do hold them on a higher regard because they were there to help us out of B. I don't really care whether they wanted to stay or not, but fact of the matter is, they were there for a whole season, and at that point of time given their form then they could've easily left and pushed for it if they really wanted to, like Zlatan. But whatever happened, to their liking or not, they stayed, gave a season for us to climb back up to A. As for traitors, I didn't care much for those who left except Zambrotta, somehow I thought he would have wanted to stay to help the club.
 

Bjerknes

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Look, the players that wanted to stay during Serie B are greater Juventus legends than those that did not. That's all there is to it.

I don't see a point in letting Trez go unless he wants a retirement home.
 

.zero

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There is nothing great about Di Natale. He is just another average italian striker who has leveled a steady career in mid-table clubs like Empoli and Udi.

And I don't really give a fuck if he was Serie A's top scorer last season. So don't waste your time reiterating that point
 

X Æ A-12

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There is nothing great about Di Natale. He is just another average italian striker who has leveled a steady career in mid-table clubs like Empoli and Udi.

And I don't really give a fuck if he was Serie A's top scorer last season. So don't waste your time reiterating that point
I think he is impressive and not just because of his scoring record. I would hate Marotta if he signed him but Di Natale is not just an "average Italian striker".
 

Gabriel

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There is nothing great about Di Natale. He is just another average italian striker who has leveled a steady career in mid-table clubs like Empoli and Udi.

And I don't really give a fuck if he was Serie A's top scorer last season. So don't waste your time reiterating that point
I think he is impressive and not just because of his scoring record. I would hate Marotta if he signed him but Di Natale is not just an "average Italian striker".
Udinese owner Gianpaolo Pozzo has announced : "Juventus tried to sign Antonio Di Natale and we talked about it a few hours ago. But, Di Natale rejected Juve's offer and I am happy to keep him .... Di Natale is very loyal to Udinese. A year ago, he refused offers from some foreign clubs, Napoli, Fiorentina and Juventus, who made an attempt for him last summer too".

There, now drop the old fart topic.
 

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