Daniele Rugani (26 Viewers)

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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The good thing is that we have really young guy who atm can be a bench player for us so we dont have to buy any player near his 30s for this role. In the same time we can develop Rugano to slowly become our first choice, if he wont be that good we still have player who is good enough for bench.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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He isnt instantly wowing them after half a year of not playing, so apparently that translates to horrible for people that were envisioning a reincarnation of Nesta and Baresi.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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He has played 3 full games, in new role and formation, only questionable in 1 of them and the others grew into the game and kept it simple. Also, may I remind you, he is 21? Thats like 17-18 for defenders.


You really have no reason to worry yet and instead should check your expectations and give him time.
I guess you are wright. I just thought he was a different kind of defender. I thought he was the kind of defender who was comfortable on the ball able to start attacks from the back.

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He isnt instantly wowing them after half a year of not playing, so apparently that translates to horrible for people that were envisioning a reincarnation of Nesta and Baresi.
I did not say he was horrible, I said Bonucci was horrible the first 2-3 years he was a Juve player.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Am I the only one who is a bit worried that its all hype with Rugani. So far I think he has been dissapointing. I thought he was better with the ball than he is. I know its unfair to judge him on the few times I seen him play but I just have not seen anything yet that would suggest that he is the next big thing. Every the media wrights something about him its the " he played every minute last year without getting a yellow card". Offcourse it. Is impressive to play every minute but who cares if he got 0 or 10 yellow cards. It is not necessesarelly a sign of a good defender. Could somebody who watched him last year with Empoli please explain why he is considered so highly?
I suppose this is the problem with modern football, defenders are valued for their use of the ball ahead of their actual ability to defend.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Yeah it's no surprise Dolph expected that of him without seeing him before. I think it was Neville or Southgate who said recently how little people focus on the defensive abilities of CBs, and get lost in their technical qualities. Stones is very good example, very promising young defender, but his work in progress defending potential is overlooked because he is so good with the ball.


Dolph to clarify Rugani is a very keep it simple and positions yourself in the right zones and take no risks kind of CB. He is not supposed to shine with the ball tho has decent feet, but mainly be a strong defensive presence and minimise dangers, rarely over commit or act rash. Still young and a work in progress ofcourse, but was rated high last season for maturity and calm ability beyond his age.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Yeah it's no surprise Dolph expected that of him without seeing him before. I think it was Neville or Southgate who said recently how little people focus on the defensive abilities of CBs, and get lost in their technical qualities. Stones is very good example, very promising young defender, but his work in progress defending potential is overlooked because he is so good with the ball.


Dolph to clarify Rugani is a very keep it simple and positions yourself in the right zones and take no risks kind of CB. He is not supposed to shine with the ball tho has decent feet, but mainly be a strong defensive presence and minimise dangers, rarely over commit or act rash. Still young and a work in progress ofcourse, but was rated high last season for maturity and calm ability beyond his age.
I think people focus more on tecnical abilities now because it is an incresingly important part of the game. With the full pitch pressure being something a lot of teams practise it is more and more important that defenders are able to play the ball from the back. We only have Bonucci who can do that and it is one of the reasons we have trouble playing against teams that put pressure on our backline.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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It should be part of the requirement, but not the most important one as it has become. The focus of CBs is defending first and foremost, but past decade school of thought has been to elevate players that have qualities of CMs as CBs and overlook their defensive limitations. All around technique and passing game more as the focus over pure positioning and tackling ability.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I really hope not. I just cant sit through 2-3 years of horrible defending before he finally becomes good.
He's 21. Name 21 and under defenders who are full-time starters for League winning, CL-contending teams... The list is so short it doesn't exist.

And his defending is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. He's very much like a young Barza in terms of calm, cool, collected in defense, excellent positioning, doesn't make rash challenges, great clean tackler and intercepter of the ball.

He has tons of time to get better and more confident playing the ball out from the back. He's not terrible at this, he's just not spectacular.
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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Am I the only one who is a bit worried that its all hype with Rugani. So far I think he has been dissapointing. I thought he was better with the ball than he is. I know its unfair to judge him on the few times I seen him play but I just have not seen anything yet that would suggest that he is the next big thing. Every the media wrights something about him its the " he played every minute last year without getting a yellow card". Offcourse it. Is impressive to play every minute but who cares if he got 0 or 10 yellow cards. It is not necessesarelly a sign of a good defender. Could somebody who watched him last year with Empoli please explain why he is considered so highly?

the guy is super young. Take it easy.

Look at bonucci. He came being a full time disaster and now he is acceptable at defending with a good pass.
 

Rollie

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Apr 15, 2008
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Also, beyond his attributes on the field, the learning curve, etc., this is a player whose mentality and approach have effectively been universally praised (I have never read anything bad about Rugani). Just the other day, Pirlo was critiquing the current trend for young footballers to be lacking in humility and professionalism, bar a few. In that interview he specifically mentioned how impressed he was Rugani's approach, the way he trains, indicating his conduct on and off the pitch has basically been exemplary.

Rugani's an old soul, as the saying goes, mature beyond his years. I think he's going to be a stud, and a leader of this great club's next generation.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Bonucci last year: "Rugani is a player of great promise and is such a good professional. We already noted his quality when he was in the Primavera youth team. He doesn’t pull back and is humble, so over these last few years his growth at Empoli has been exponential.”
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Juve best school for Rugani
By Football Italia staff


Daniele Rugani might not play regularly, but Edward Stratmann feels Juventus is the best place for him now.

Only one man played every single minute of Serie A action for his club last season without earning a yellow card. That man was, of course, Empoli's Daniele Rugani.

The Juventus owned defender's durability and the immense quality he showed, despite his tender years, was nothing short of spectacular last season, especially considering it was the then 20-year-old's first full campaign of top flight football.

Playing and learning under the meticulous, dedicated Maurizio Sarri, who's since moved on to high-flying Napoli, unquestionably has worked wonders for Rugani. "For me it is Rugani [who is the best young Italian player]," Sarri told the Corriere dello Sport.

"He has excellent capabilities and concentration. I gave him his debut as an 18-year-old.

"He will be a very important player for the future of Italian football."

High praise indeed from Sarri, who excels in setting up and organising a defensive unit. His time at Empoli and Napoli has certainly proved so, where he quickly turned his respective backlines into cohesive, well-oiled machines, with his fascinating use of a drone in training to analyse every detail from shape, positioning and spacing forming a crucial component of his training sessions.

Having benefitted from the Tuscan tactician's methods, Rugani returned to Juventus for the 2015-16 season full of confidence and ready to play. And while he's had to be patient and wait his turn behind arguably one of the best defences in Europe, which features Giorgio Chiellini, Leonardo Bonucci and Andrea Barzagli, simply training and learning every day from this exceptional trio must be massively benefitting his development. It must be said, however, when he's been afforded an opportunity, mainly in cup games and less important Serie A fixtures, he's looked the part within this magnificent Juventus outfit.

Although his agent, Davide Torchia, has recently blasted The Old Lady and Massimiliano Allegri about his client's lack of playing time, Rugani's attitude has been exemplary. He's remained patient and showed impressive maturity about the situation, knowing full well he has to earn his spot.

“Juventus have invested in young talent this summer and we are all keen to repay the trust shown in us,” he explained.

“I have a great opportunity here but I won’t be taking anything for granted. I’ve only just started at Juventus and I knew that it wouldn’t be easy. However, I must be ready when called upon.”

This cool, calm and collective thought process, much like his on field approach, gives testament to a man who's got a very level head on his shoulders, and one who refuses to be drawn into any unnecessary controversy.

With Juventus traveling to Udine last weekend, in a match that held extra significance, for it was opening of The Little Zebras' brand new Friuli stadium, Rugani demonstrated his worth by putting in a splendid, no-nonsense shift on the right side of central defence, as Juventus went on to record a 4-0 win to christen the stadium in the worst possible way for the home supporters.

With Allegri opting to organise his team into a 3-5-2 formation, this saw Rugani deployed alongside the battle hardened duo of Chiellini and Bonucci. And aside from a few sketchy moments at the beginning, the 21-year-old looked right at home beside the veteran duo, undertaking his role with a great deal of composure, comfort and customary intelligence.

Positionally, he remained flawless throughout, always ensuring his spacing between his nearest defeder, Bonucci, and right wing back, Stephan Lichtsteiner, was ideal to deal with the attacking threat Udinese possess. On their day, dealing with Udinese's strike partnership of Antonio Di Natale and Cyril Thereau can be a real handful for any defence, but Rugani's exceptional defensive work helped prevent them from having any real influence on the contest. Whenever either man drifting into Rugani's designated area of operation, he tracked them well and used his enviable athleticism and smarts to nullify their impact effectively. Moreover, if Bonucci needed support or got caught out of position, Rugani's alertness and covering speed saw him able to rapidly get across and cover for his colleague.

Rugani's astute defensive contribution also extended over to situations where Lichtsteiner pushed forward, in typically aggressive fashion, as the Italian international would slide across and cover the space in behind the Swiss hardman, which allowed him to motor upfield with plentiful freedom in the knowledge Rugani had his back in case of a turnover.

All things considered, Rugani's exceptional body of work highlighted his undeniable quality, in a match where he displayed great conviction, discipline and assuredness in almost everything he did against Udinese's veteran strike force.

Standing at an imposing 190cm already, it was yet again remarkable to see how well this young defender shone when dealing with battles in the air and on the ground.

Although this was just his fifth match of the season for the reigning Serie A champions, he showed just how valuable a strong grasp of the defensive fundamentals can be. Upon factoring in his athleticism, Rugani truly is the perfect blend of physicality and intelligence.

It's little wonder why he's drawn comparisons to the likes of Alessandro Nesta and Andrea Barzagli. He's just that good, but the frightening thing is that at only 21, he'll only keep developing his craft.

Being at Juventus is unquestionably the best spot for him to do just that. While he's definitely one for the future, the elegant centre-half has already got all the tools to contribute to Allegri's wonderful Juve team right now.
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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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The good thing is that we have really young guy who atm can be a bench player for us so we dont have to buy any player near his 30s for this role. In the same time we can develop Rugano to slowly become our first choice, if he wont be that good we still have player who is good enough for bench.
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remember how mattiello got injured last year if rugano doesnt give more chance its because of his age and his health at this age
he will be starter in future.its the great advantage for a player has 201 years old and playing in juve even he is not sterter Barzagli is 35 yrs Licht is also past 30 and Chiellini is 31 yrs so he would be a good alternative.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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He is a defender, if he goes unnoticed it normally means he is doing a good job. He hasn't really been isolated or in one on one's so he isnt really going to stand out.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Ffs not stating that he is a bad player or that he cant be one of the best in the game. Just stating that hes start here has not been impressive, which in this day and age with the Santon, Rannochia, De Sciglio of the world can make you a bit worried that it is all hype.

Kind of funny how the consensus on tuz favorse some players and not others. I mean everybody hated the Pereyra and Zaza purchase, so they where heavely critisized as soon as they had a bad performance, leaving everybody to judge them as a waste of money without even giving them the chance. Everybody loves the Rugani purchase so it is not okay to critisize him or express a bit of negativity.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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Ffs not stating that he is a bad player or that he cant be one of the best in the game. Just stating that hes start here has not been impressive, which in this day and age with the Santon, Rannochia, De Sciglio of the world can make you a bit worried that it is all hype.

Kind of funny how the consensus on tuz favorse some players and not others. I mean everybody hated the Pereyra and Zaza purchase, so they where heavely critisized as soon as they had a bad performance, leaving everybody to judge them as a waste of money without even giving them the chance. Everybody loves the Rugani purchase so it is not okay to critisize him or express a bit of negativity.
I'm just not sure what you define as impressive. He played in pretty comfortable games. If we were under heavy pressure and he was shakey I'd understand but really I can only recall him being shakey at the start of the udinese game, in saying that though, the whole D was for a good 15 minutes.
 

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