Cristiano Ronaldo (135 Viewers)

[IlCapitano]

Porto match is proof he is not consistent
His presence had resulted solely in him making quite an amount of goals, that’s true, but as a team we have regressed each year. Also because of his presence

You should look up the meaning of word 'consistency', not sure you know it.

As a team we have regressed because of mostly wrong decisions at every other part of the pitch. There's 5-7 players here that were at the club when he signed, so he's clearly not restricting us in terms of signing new players either.

 

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[Vlad]

Scores 3 goals, still not good enough. Serie A goals dont count now apparently, in a situation where every point matters.

 

[FlavioJuve]

You should look up the meaning of word 'consistency', not sure you know it.

As a team we have regressed because of mostly wrong decisions at every other part of the pitch. There's 5-7 players here that were at the club when he signed, so he's clearly not restricting us in terms of signing new players either.

I am not talking about what players have come or not, I am talking about team play and tactics

 

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[juve123]

Form is temporary class is permanent

 

[Pegi]

+700 goals scored in his career. That's more than these 2 teams have combined. Tell me more about it. He might not always score, but he will do it year in and year out and has been doing it for 20 years literally. He still gets the shit done, but no one is perfect and no one can get it done every game. But let's say he gets it done 3 games out of 5, who does it in those 2 games? Inter got Lukaku and Martinez sitting at +15 goals in league, all the top teams have secondary scoring - we don't.

Him, Chiellini and Buffon - that's enough for me to watch us play against a fucking serie D team while people are complaing about Porto exit. Alot of professional footballers would pay to share the locker room with those guys, even for a day. Let that sink in.

Cherish it.

 

[IlCapitano]

I am not talking about what players have come or not, I am talking about team play and tactics

You are talking nonsense.

Any players or coaches for whom a player like Ronaldo is a hindrance, distraction etc. have no business playing for Juventus.

 

[FlavioJuve]

See it how you like, but we have not been a wholesome team since his arrival and we will not win CL as long as he’s here.
He is a great athlete and an absolute winner, but he will not provide us the CL trophy making his arrival debatable

 

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[Vlad]

See it how you like, but we have not been a wholesome team since his arrival and we will not win CL as long as he’s here.
He is a great athlete and an absolute winner, but he will not provide us the CL trophy making his arrival debatable

This doesnt make any sense. An absolute winner, great athlete, but surely he isnt the problem then if we dont win CL? So maybe just maybe improve other areas of the team so they can at least come closer to his level.

 

[tassard]

SELL

 

[juve123]

See it how you like, but we have not been a wholesome team since his arrival and we will not win CL as long as he’s here.
He is a great athlete and an absolute winner, but he will not provide us the CL trophy making his arrival debatable

It is team sport provide him with a better midfield and we will win the champions league

 

[FlavioJuve]

This doesnt make any sense. An absolute winner, great athlete, but surely he isnt the problem then if we dont win CL? So maybe just maybe improve other areas of the team so they can at least come closer to his level.

His costs and the fact that he ‘dictates’ a certain game style (like he rarely contributes in defence) makes him part of the problem, yes
His costs makes that we can not provide him with improvements in other areas
Makes more sense now?

 

[Vlad]

His costs and the fact that he ‘dictates’ a certain game style (like he rarely contributes in defence) makes him part of the problem, yes
His costs makes that we can not provide him with improvements in other areas
Makes more sense now?

No, it still doesnt. We wasted a lot of funds on fringe players over the last 3 years, which is what has prevented our growth. Ronaldo's job is to score goals and he does that consistently and not to play as a defender.

 

[IlCapitano]

His costs and the fact that he ‘dictates’ a certain game style (like he rarely contributes in defence) makes him part of the problem, yes
His costs makes that we can not provide him with improvements in other areas
Makes more sense now?

Again:

There's 5-7 players here that were at the club when he signed, so he's clearly not restricting us in terms of signing new players either.

MDS, Rugani, Costa, Berna, Bentancur, Rabiot, Ramsey, Arthur, Kulusevski, Bonucci, Dybala, Sandro, Perin earn over 100m in wages, double of Ronaldo.

As long as they are here and provide us (close to) nothing Ronaldo is not even a 0,0000001% of the problem.

 

[Vlad]

When someone scores +30 goals per season he can remain iddle for allI care when opponent attacks.

 

[IlCapitano]

No, it still doesnt. We wasted a lot of funds on fringe players over the last 3 years, which is what has prevented our growth. Ronaldo's job is to score goals and he does that consistently and not to play as a defender.

The 'he is not defending' "argument" comes from the same people that blamed Allegri for ruining Dybala and Higuain by making them defend lmao

 

[FlavioJuve]

No, it still doesnt. We wasted a lot of funds on fringe players over the last 3 years, which is what has prevented our growth. Ronaldo's job is to score goals and he does that consistently and not to play as a defender.

Expect when we need it most...
Maybe he should then try to make his goal scoring also constant

I don’t think we’ll get aligned if you think a player can have only 1 job within a team. No problem

 

[Vlad]

The 'he is not defending' "argument" comes from the same people that blamed Allegri for ruining Dybala and Higuain by making them defend lmao

Mandzukic tracked back and defended but that was his selling point since he wasnt prolific enough. When someone scores as much asRonaldo does, u dont care if he doesnt track back.

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Expect when we need it most...
Maybe he should then try to make his goal scoring also constant

I don’t think we’ll get aligned if you think a player can have only 1 job within a team. No problem

Your example is reduced to 1 game.... Atletico, Lyon, maybe check who has scored the most CL goals for us in recent years, knockouts in particular.

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Yes his sole job is to score goals and thats it. If he doesnt its a problem then. So far no issues.

 

[FlavioJuve]

Mandzukic tracked back and defended but that was his selling point since he wasnt prolific enough. When someone scores as much asRonaldo does, u dont care if he doesnt track back.

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Your example is reduced to 1 game.... Atletico, Lyon, maybe check who has scored the most CL goals for us in recent years, knockouts in particular.

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Yes his sole job is to score goals and thats it. If he doesnt its a problem then. So far no issues.

Are other players allowed to score? Or does he want to provide all the goals himself? Have we gotten further in CL thanks to CR than we did in years before he came?
The moment CR left Real they started playing better and other players made the goals, mostly Benzema. The production of goals didn’t stagnate

Let’s talk when we get to a CL final again, or maybe a semi