People love their nostalgia, however, come 20 years in the future CR7 will be regarded as the better players and the name 'Ronaldo' will be a synonym for CR7. R9 only has the World Cup over CR7 but everyone seems to forget that he had a team that also had Ronaldinho and Rivaldo and WC 2002 was one of the weakest tournaments; Turkey and South Korea semi-finalists...
R9 was a fantastic player but R7 has exceeded him imo. Had Ronaldo been at his peak during the Portuguese era of peak Figo and Rui Costa he would have won the World Cup too.
R9 was a fantastic player but R7 has exceeded him imo. Had Ronaldo been at his peak during the Portuguese era of peak Figo and Rui Costa he would have won the World Cup too.
CR7 from 07-13 could do everything R9 could do plus more (heading + freekicks). He probably wasn't as graceful or aesthetic on the ball but he was every bit as effective. What made R9 so revolutionary was the fact that he was operating at such obscene levels as a teenager. He was essentially the best player on the planet by the time he was 19-20. This made people ponder just how good he could have become if he didn't sustain those near career ending injuries before the prototypical peak age (25-28). Even then, his overall level from ages 19-21 alone elevates him as one of the very best in history.
Nope, The Brazilian was amazing - cannot be stopped, he just ran forward and none could take the ball away from him.
To make it even more impressive - He did it in an era in which defenses were much better with the likes of Cannavaro Nesta Montero..
We had by far the better team in comparison to Inter and should this not be the case we would have lost some Scudettos..
C.Ronaldo was definitely an amazing player but its different.
as for headers and fk - Yeah sure C.Ronaldo is much better at it as he is by far more athletic and also has some height advantage.
Peaks wise - I agree with boboAle - Ronaldo (R9) had the highest peak
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Sarri might won this on paper but he actually was the reason why we almost lost it..
Now we have Pirlo who I might like his ideas more than Sarri`s but he is actually the same thing as we need better coaches than both.
As for Allegri - He would definitely win it again but it was against the change the club wanted (change style to a more attacking one).
Now lets hope our next manager has better coaching skills than Sarri and Pirlo...
To make it even more impressive - He did it in an era in which defenses were much better with the likes of Cannavaro Nesta Montero..
We had by far the better team in comparison to Inter and should this not be the case we would have lost some Scudettos..
C.Ronaldo was definitely an amazing player but its different.
as for headers and fk - Yeah sure C.Ronaldo is much better at it as he is by far more athletic and also has some height advantage.
Peaks wise - I agree with boboAle - Ronaldo (R9) had the highest peak
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Sarri might won this on paper but he actually was the reason why we almost lost it..
Now we have Pirlo who I might like his ideas more than Sarri`s but he is actually the same thing as we need better coaches than both.
As for Allegri - He would definitely win it again but it was against the change the club wanted (change style to a more attacking one).
Now lets hope our next manager has better coaching skills than Sarri and Pirlo...
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so numbers are what decides the highest peak? What a sad life that is if you look at it only from that perspective
they are the best in the last 10-12 years for sure, but saying they’re the best in the modern football history BY A MILE is delusional.
i seriously doubt you even watched R9
they are the best in the last 10-12 years for sure, but saying they’re the best in the modern football history BY A MILE is delusional.
i seriously doubt you even watched R9
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Its not just numbers but its had to ignore a winger scoring double or triple the amount of goals r9 striker scored plus assists. I have seen both players and i dont see what makes R9 far better than prime CR7 the "07-08" or "11 to 2012" version of him cr7 where he was a overall monster and scored goals for fun.
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If we only go by numbers any of the legends don't matter because Messi's/Ronaldo's will crush them. But that's imo utterly misleading.
It would mean players like Maradona and Ronaldinho who were clearly more talented (In terms of just sheer talent and what one could do with the ball) than those two aren't as good because they didn't break as many records. Mertens surpassed Maradona in goals for Napoli for fucks sake.
So you gotta ask yourself is it really that every single legend that played the game in the past weren't good enough to reach those numbers OR is it football that has drastically changed and that if they were playing now they would be the ones breaking the records?
I have no doubt in my mind it's the latter. Nothing to do with nostalgia but they not only played in a time when competition was fiercer, defenders were tough and reckless and defenses in general were more organized as a collective, referees allowed violence, the ball moved forward most of the time and diving and time wasting/diving wasn't such a thing then but It wasn't all about fitness and you didn't play a thousand matches for club/country a season.
You have to be really naive or just really young and not knowing better to blindly praise those two as the best there ever was while completely diminishing what Pelé, Cruyff and the likes did within the context of the way football was like in those times. Scoring 70 goals a season was never the norm before.
It would mean players like Maradona and Ronaldinho who were clearly more talented (In terms of just sheer talent and what one could do with the ball) than those two aren't as good because they didn't break as many records. Mertens surpassed Maradona in goals for Napoli for fucks sake.
So you gotta ask yourself is it really that every single legend that played the game in the past weren't good enough to reach those numbers OR is it football that has drastically changed and that if they were playing now they would be the ones breaking the records?
I have no doubt in my mind it's the latter. Nothing to do with nostalgia but they not only played in a time when competition was fiercer, defenders were tough and reckless and defenses in general were more organized as a collective, referees allowed violence, the ball moved forward most of the time and diving and time wasting/diving wasn't such a thing then but It wasn't all about fitness and you didn't play a thousand matches for club/country a season.
You have to be really naive or just really young and not knowing better to blindly praise those two as the best there ever was while completely diminishing what Pelé, Cruyff and the likes did within the context of the way football was like in those times. Scoring 70 goals a season was never the norm before.
Argh just shut the f about saying that peak R9, Pele, or Maradona (bless his soul) are he best players etc.
Since CR7 and Messi has came on scene, these players have been rendered a step below greatness. We are talking about two players who stayed top for more than TEN years, winning titles after titles, cups after cups for their team.
And CR7 even managed to do that everywhere he goes. Only thing missing so far is winning ECL with Juve. Which is our directors fault.
In footballing world, there is god CR7 and then there is demigod messi (cus he has a weak mentality) and then finally your R9s and Cryuffs.
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Weak injury prone footballers who don’t take care of themselves or build a superhuman body should not be considered great footballer. Yes CR7 has raised the bar that high.
Since CR7 and Messi has came on scene, these players have been rendered a step below greatness. We are talking about two players who stayed top for more than TEN years, winning titles after titles, cups after cups for their team.
And CR7 even managed to do that everywhere he goes. Only thing missing so far is winning ECL with Juve. Which is our directors fault.
In footballing world, there is god CR7 and then there is demigod messi (cus he has a weak mentality) and then finally your R9s and Cryuffs.
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Weak injury prone footballers who don’t take care of themselves or build a superhuman body should not be considered great footballer. Yes CR7 has raised the bar that high.
